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    Re: MSPA fan-fiction

    And We Come to an End (Part 5)

    (Part 1) (Part 2) (Part 3) (Part 4)
    (Part 6)



    Not to scare anyone, but there is only one more part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmsumrall View Post
    And We Come to an End (Part 5)

    (Part 1) (Part 2) (Part 3) (Part 4)



    Not to scare anyone, but there is only one more part.
    ...You know, given his bizarre behavior at the beginning of the story, I'm surprised I didn't see this coming. But how on earth did he get the jump on Terezi? O_O

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    praisedump!:


    holy crap you guys are amazing! <3 I seriously didn't expect this kind of response to my fic, haha


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    Quote Originally Posted by VagabondRaiser View Post
    A mental image of the four kids and a half-dozen imps holding hands and dancing in a circle singing songs came unbidden to his mind.
    Someone totally needs to draw this.
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    Can I just say that I really regret not finding this again once the forums changed? I mean REALLY regret. From what I've seen of the past 2 or 3 pages, I'd say I missed out on some awesome stuff.

    So yeah. Keep being awesome, everyone.
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    Now I kind of want to write John having his first look around Jade's house and noticing the stuffed Hass.
    Niiice. Go for it.

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    Re: MSPA fan-fiction

    Announcement!

    I am calling attention to this in the most relevant threads, but whether or not you have seen SkepticArcher's magnificent lecture in the fan art thread, I would strongly encourage everyone to check out the new item in the Rules Thread regarding complaintive behavior.

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    Wait. Wait. "Self depreciating remarks" are a crime now? I looked at SkepticArcher's post, which seems to be saying, "We are not self confident enough. If you feel neglected, draw more! This ties in with being positive about your work somehow!", which does not really define the line between 'acknowledging mistakes' and 'whining'.

    If you guys are going to make blue laws, could they at least be well defined blue laws? As it is I feel like the rule is just discouraging any feedback short of a thin, "Wow omg this is sooooo good kaybye!" for fear of something being taken the wrong way and infractions being slapped around.

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    Admittedly this is on my mind as well. I do my best to give constructive criticism when I see a genuine need for it, though if I have comments about artwork that sound overly critical I tend to keep them to myself. :c I don't like making people sad when frankly I don't have a whole lot of talent myself (insofar as I don't have talent in many areas; I like to believe I'm a very competent writer). But the distinction to be made between the two is sometimes blurry depending on one's individual perceptions. Thankfully we do have a lot of levelheaded mods around here, so I'm not exceptionally worried about somebody having a bad day and just slapping infractions on everybody.

    EDIT: Well it's good to have that clarified. c: Like I said, I wasn't worried about it being some kind of ban-happy spree or anything. Just wanted to make sure I was thinking correctly about what the new mandate is.
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    I'm not sure how you're getting discouragement of critique out of any of this, as that has nothing to do with this new guideline. If you are consistently down on yourself when you post your work, it is not only an unhealthy attitude to have, but after a while it makes you seem like you're fishing for compliments and makes others feel obligated to comment on work they otherwise didn't feel inclined to, which should be entirely up to every individual to decide. There IS a difference between self-deprecation (I drew this and it kind of sucks but here it is anyway) and being humble or pointing out areas you need work on (I think the anatomy could use a little work, but here is a drawing I made today!). I also take issue with people who consistently drag up posts they've made pages in the past with comments like "posting this again because everyone ignored it ;__;." What SA is trying to say is that instead of throwing a pity party, people should try to use perceived negligence or disparities between their work and other more experienced artists' work as motivation to improve.

    If you have a suggestion as to how to make that post more clear on any of these distinctions, then by all means send me a PM. I have been getting a lot of feedback that way and have tried to make small changes here and there to accommodate the forum's needs.

    e: The only hardline rules in here are ones that are indicated as bannable offenses, and even then we are extremely, extremely kind about avoiding real penalties in here. Everything else serves more as posting guidelines than strict adherence. More than anywhere else, the content of this subforum is subjective and needs to be handled on a case-by-case basis. If you'll notice, I haven't handed out a single infraction yet. I'd like to keep it that way as long as possible by maintaining civil discourse.

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    Re: MSPA fan-fiction

    Quote Originally Posted by DocBeard View Post
    Wait. Wait. "Self depreciating remarks" are a crime now? I looked at SkepticArcher's post, which seems to be saying, "We are not self confident enough. If you feel neglected, draw more! This ties in with being positive about your work somehow!", which does not really define the line between 'acknowledging mistakes' and 'whining'.

    If you guys are going to make blue laws, could they at least be well defined blue laws? As it is I feel like the rule is just discouraging any feedback short of a thin, "Wow omg this is sooooo good kaybye!" for fear of something being taken the wrong way and infractions being slapped around.
    Seriously, I know this is a thread for writers, but I have absolutely no clue what you are trying to get across here.

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    Lexxy, the clarification between guidelines and things that merit infractions handles any issues I'd have with the rule. Thanks for taking the time to respond, I appreciate it. I know I can sound kind of salty sometimes.

    Seriously, I know this is a thread for writers, but I have absolutely no clue what you are trying to get across here.
    "While SA's point is an excellent one, I feel making it a hard and fast rule is a bad idea. If you are going to do so anyway, it would be a good idea to define your terms better, as they are pretty vague and I feel this would discourage the open exchange of ideas." That better, or am I still failing to communicate?

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    Re: MSPA fan-fiction

    Perhaps I should make a precursor in the rules to denote what is hardline and what is subjective?

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    I think that would be an excellent idea, Lexxy. The fandom is still growing; there'll be new people coming in who'll be clueless about how the rule actually plays out in the community. Best to clarify early and avoid future confusion.

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    That'd be your prerogative. Honestly the "THIS IS A BANNABLE OFFENSE" was a pretty strong implication, and I feel sort of foolish for not picking up on that.

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    Re: MSPA fan-fiction

    Quote Originally Posted by DocBeard View Post
    Lexxy, the clarification between guidelines and things that merit infractions handles any issues I'd have with the rule. Thanks for taking the time to respond, I appreciate it. I know I can sound kind of salty sometimes.



    "While SA's point is an excellent one, I feel making it a hard and fast rule is a bad idea. If you are going to do so anyway, it would be a good idea to define your terms better, as they are pretty vague and I feel this would discourage the open exchange of ideas." That better, or am I still failing to communicate?
    Now that you've removed the whole part about squashing criticism, yeah, makes sense.

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    Yeah, as a rule, it would be one of the most awful ideas I've ever heard, tbh. As a *guideline*, it works just fine. I think it would be a great idea to clarify the difference. ^^

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    I'll ponder on that and maybe make the revision tomorrow, as I've got work to get back to. Thanks for the feedback, guys!

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    Whoa, you have an icon, rA! What happened there? My world has been shattered.

    Thanks for the rule, Lexxy.

    And in the spirit of having just gotten into a ... thing ... over in Serious Business about how fic is art, saras, fuuuck I love your writing forever, and it is, if not art, at least asymptotically approaching it. You and rA should become second-person-genius crimefighters, swooping through the internets and demolishing mediocrity.

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    I tend to follow Scott McCloud when saying what is or isn't art. "Art is anything not directly related to survival or reproduction." Subjective as all get out, art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nextian View Post
    Whoa, you have an icon, rA! What happened there? My world has been shattered.

    Thanks for the rule, Lexxy.

    And in the spirit of having just gotten into a ... thing ... over in Serious Business about how fic is art, saras, fuuuck I love your writing forever, and it is, if not art, at least asymptotically approaching it. You and rA should become second-person-genius crimefighters, swooping through the internets and demolishing mediocrity.
    I do wish we got a bit more attention from other folks sometimes... but I guess it is a larger commitment to read fic and all. And we sure have an active fic writing community!

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    (Okay so this totally seems mistitled, but give it some time. Also it was not inspired by tonight's updates, although they do make it feel... especially appropriate. :O

    I know I said I'd be waiting longer on this stuff but I went through my whole shift at work with this burning in my brain. x_x)

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    Re: MSPA fan-fiction

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow of the Lotus View Post
    I do wish we got a bit more attention from other folks sometimes... but I guess it is a larger commitment to read fic and all. And we sure have an active fic writing community!
    I hope the rule wasn't misinterpreted so far as to make you guys think I was directing it specifically at you I actually have the most trouble in the drawing threads, which is mostly what SA's post refers to, as those tend to move very quickly and people that get overlooked sometimes get their panties in a bunch. You are all very supportive of each other's works in here, and because the writing and reading of fics is a slower process, I feel like everyone gets a little bit more attention when attention is paid. I just copied and pasted the announcement in all of the most popular threads (fanart, romart, doodle, fan music, and fanfic).

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    Oh no Lexxy! I didn't think the rule was directed at us in the least. I think we keep pretty up-beat around this thread anyways~ I was more bemoaning how uh, inside-looking the fan-fic thread can seem. It was a reflection of the fan-fiction debate in the serious business forum. (Just wish we could get more people reading the fics in here, you know? Though we have been moving ridiculously fast the past month and have so many contributions it's hard to keep up with it all). I think you're doing a wonderful job as a moderator and have been very excited to play in this playground you provide for us.

    I've been working on a fic the past two days. Having a bit of trouble writing it up as I want to make it absolutely perfect. Somewhere around 3, 4 pages done right now. Aiming more for 10 (so I guess it might be a 3-part fic or something but I'm waiting to write it all before I post it). It is more John x Rose stuff; geez, I need to broaden out.

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