Games Subforum Chat

[Schazer]

Oooor you could assume that anyone who's going to get legitimately ragey over being overlooked for a forum game by a perfectly reasonable and considerate host deserves a bit of butthurt in their life.

[GenetiXientist]

Oooor you could assume that anyone who's going to get legitimately ragey over being overlooked for a forum game by a perfectly reasonable and considerate host deserves a bit of butthurt in their life.

This applies to both arguments; I'm mainly saying FCFS seems easier on the person running the game, even if only in terms of stress.

The whole "insulted" thing was just a counterpoint to what Tildey and jac were saying.

E: Oh, wait, you gave a hypothetical perfect situation in which the host has absolutely no bias of any sort.

I can still salvage my statement! (not really, and this is not serious.)

[Dais]

As an extra note FCFS seems to be the best option for games where 'entry/registration' basically amounts to name or name+player color, because there's no real need to judge anything. Either that or random selection.

[ProfessorLizzard]

An other note about First Come First Serve, that 80% of the players of them is always the same four guys :|

I use NEPOTISM, usually including people who I know I reliable.

And I still have to bug them forever to post.

[Lankie]

Yeah, I guess the PM thing was just an alternate FCFS. My reasoning was If I did it that way, I'd get people who had read my little concept post and people who were legitimately interested to join up. As opposed to people who just see an open spot and throw their hat in instantly.

I ain't perfect, what can I say.

[SleepingOrange]

I approve of FCFS when I can sign up fast enough for a game I like, and NEPOTISM when I can't or when people I don't like sign up.

This is my totally-serious-no-for-reals-yo stance.

[A Killer Cuppa Tea]

Here's my stance:

For games that are relatively long lasting or RPGish or uncommon (HerpCrawl, Diplomacy etc, particularly ones that need you to make a character sheet), picking the players is prolly the better decision.

On the other hand, Mafias (pretty much in a class of their own as there are so many of them), FCFS is prolly better so that we can get new players and additions to the community. The reason for this is, quite simply, because I personally would not have discovered this so-fine community if this means of getting players hadn't been for me entering games like this. I feel picking players will lead to the same few faces in this kinda game which would be a Shane for potential new players!

So basically, Character Sheet = Nepotism, "In" = FCFS

[DecidedlyDevious]

The thing with mafias though is that there's usually room for, at least, more than 10 players.

I personally like how Spearme decided to handle players for WDPTTAA: Hold a mini competition and see what happens.

[A Killer Cuppa Tea]

Omg that post prompted me to read the game and I've read the first page and OMG what an awesome game

[A Killer Cuppa Tea]

This is a Community Effort! By which I mean Schaz came up with most of the lyrics...


To the Tune of Deck the Halls:

Its a fight between Dini and Solly
Trol-lo-lo-lo-lo- lolo lo-lo
Posting gifs which're really Trolly
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Watts' inventions stack the bodies
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And Schazer is draped in hotties
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Graveslam Darcy right out the park
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Sleepderp featured death by Vig-Shark
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Scores of lurkers, veterans' ire
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Aci kills No Lynch with Fire
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X is weeping in the hornpile
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Scratch Slick made losing worthwhile
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Pimps and Kenji Ryu and Cabers
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The bird police'll probably save us
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Tasty Trout-on-Boxcars action
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Maplehoof from Vriskratch Faction
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E-lect Prime for lord of the dance
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's LYLO, man up, just take a chance
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Now we're all infected by the Virus
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Sebastian still walks amongst us
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[ProfessorLizzard]

My net broke, I will be probably gone for a few days, sorry all

[A Killer Cuppa Tea]

My net broke, I will be probably gone for a few days, sorry all

Darcy told me that it was your neck that was broken (over skype - ok maybe it was his boston accent that confused me). I panicked and came here in a hurry wondering what the fuck you had done - ON CHRISTMAS - to break your neck. Luckily, however, its only your net thats broken, so all's well. Well, except for your net. Get well soon, PL's net.

[youdont12know]

Get well, PL.

Also, that song is glorious.

[ProfessorLizzard]

Oh hey, managed to fix it. Hooray.

[youdont12know]

I was working on a game system, and the underlying system is finished and balanced. It's kind of bareboned though, and before it'll get turned into a game I'll need three things:
More skills, because there's only four so far.
Somebody who can actually make it and art it and map it, because I'm not repeating the same mistake I made with megalos twice in a row.

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5 stats – distribute 12 points, at least one in each
IN – How smart you are, defense versus ST
ST – How good you are at physical labor, defense versus SP
SP – How fast you are, defense versus DX
DX – how precise you are – Defense versus CH
CH – how good you are at social things – defense versus IN

PVP – initiator of attack skill * roll on D6 vs reciever defskill * D6 roll
diffrence in rolls is damage.
Initiating attacks is better, because you get to choose the target skill.
Putting all points in one skill renders you a glass cannon.
Spreading them evenly nets you unable to properly attack.
PVE – tasks with a target number and assinged stat. For example a wall with 30 ST can only be beaten by atleast 31 points, rolled with ST values. Teamwork sometimes possible.

Skills – pick one
Attacker: Attacking damage doubled.
Defender: defending damage tripled.
Multiple targets: attack multiple targets, their defenses get added together.
Helper: Pick a teammate: Your stat gets added to theirs for one turn
Ranger: Attack enemies further then one tile away.
Failsafe: Get a 2 if you roll a 1
Lucky break: Get a 7 if you roll a 6

Equipment: Provides a skill bonus to one stat. One active at a time. Collected during gameplay.
Examples:
Wizards staff: (Ranged IN)
Bow (Ranged DX)
Mace (Attacker ST)
Rapier (Defender DX)

Items: Oneshot bonuses, collected during gameplay (healing potions, acid potions ETC)

[Supernerd]

I'm thinking that its about time that I hosted another game, but I lack ideas for one. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[youdont12know]

see above?
That, or pirates. There are not enough games about pirates.

[loner-kid]

Some kind of direction towards what type of game your looking to do would help, or what part of it you want ideas on. I mean, you could be asking for anything from mechanics to a setting, or everything.

In terms of pure idea fuel you could do something based off a relatively simple combat system with a social/political sub-game. eg The majority of the core game would be based around combat, looting, exploration etc (likely as part of some roving band be it military, academic, or civilian) and hard stats (Str, Int, Agi, etc); with the political side providing a contrasting counterpoint, focusing less on stats and more on specific actions of the players and whatever fame and fortune they may have.

Conversely you could go for a more puzzle based game, wherin each player has the single objective to escape the compound in which they are imprisoned. I'd envision that the players would start in seperate rooms with the same puzzle, given an arbitary time limit and sending their solution to the host via pm. After a couple of these puzzles the surviving players would converge to tackle puzzles that require positioning or the application of man power. Though these puzzles would likely be slightly simpler you could limit the players communication, by not allowing them to communicate through direct speech, or set them against each other with incentives for limiting the number of players that survive to the next round.

And for a third possibility you could do a resource/bartering game, based either on delt cards or a fixed board. The goal of the game being either to make the most money or to build the most structures. This possibility is a tad silly because this kind of mechanic is a tad involved to make all by yourself, so if you were going to do this it's be better to just get a resource management game and use that.

[Namboto]

The discussion over in the christmasfia got me thinking of a simple mafia type game you could play in tf2. BLU would be mafia (all spies) and red would be town (assorted classes). The spies would, of course, be disguised (you'd have to turn off names or something for it to work) and from there it would progress like a normal mafia game. When people are lynched, they'd be killed by the mod (spies would, of course, un-disguise on death), and the night phase works by some sort of blinding mod while one of the spies backstabs someone.

It's not fully workable in vanilla tf2, but you could probably make some server mods that could accommodate it.

[youdont12know]

The discussion over in the christmasfia got me thinking of a simple mafia type game you could play in tf2. BLU would be mafia (all spies) and red would be town (assorted classes). The spies would, of course, be disguised (you'd have to turn off names or something for it to work) and from there it would progress like a normal mafia game. When people are lynched, they'd be killed by the mod (spies would, of course, un-disguise on death), and the night phase works by some sort of blinding mod while one of the spies backstabs someone.

It's not fully workable in vanilla tf2, but you could probably make some server mods that could accommodate it.

Whilst a cool idea in theory, I fail to see the point of such an complicated way of playing it, except perhaps geek cred.

[Jacquerel]

It's also pointless to play on SCII instead of on a message board but people still do

[Namboto]

The discussion over in the christmasfia got me thinking of a simple mafia type game you could play in tf2. BLU would be mafia (all spies) and red would be town (assorted classes). The spies would, of course, be disguised (you'd have to turn off names or something for it to work) and from there it would progress like a normal mafia game. When people are lynched, they'd be killed by the mod (spies would, of course, un-disguise on death), and the night phase works by some sort of blinding mod while one of the spies backstabs someone.

It's not fully workable in vanilla tf2, but you could probably make some server mods that could accommodate it.

Whilst a cool idea in theory, I fail to see the point of such an complicated way of playing it, except perhaps geek cred.

I just thought it was an interesting idea, even if it really isn't all that practical.

[Red709]

I like the idea, but it would be a bitch to make.

more importantly, Steam has been withdrawing VATS support and other benefits such as item drops for servers that use mods they don't approve of, so that might fuck up the whole idea

[Jacquerel]

Would people play TF2 mafia just to get item drops?

[ProfessorLizzard]

Since you get the items when you die, it would lead to scenes like this:

"The mafia has killed you. You have also found an Axtinguiher!"