MSPA Fanfiction IV

[lucidSeraph]

... aw that was actually cute and well-handled. all of it. I am kind of bawwing now

it's hard being queer man

it's hard and nobody understands

[Bufu]

man that ftm dave fic sure is making its rounds! O: I am still ultra surprised people seemed to like it so much!

and X15lm20 awww john is just so sweet ;v; you've got jade's voice down really well, and I think she's actually a pretty hard character to write

[Graven_Image]

What does ftm stand for, by the way?

[sebastian]

female to male, I think.

[lucidSeraph]

What does ftm stand for, by the way?

Female to Male. Basically, in that 'verse Dave was born with two X chromosomes, but culturally, emotionally, and mentally thinks of himself as male.



still eventually want to see a fic with a character who doesn't think of themselves as gendered at all.

[Kassiopeia]

still eventually want to see a fic with a character who doesn't think of themselves as gendered at all.

Would be so interesting! Maybe one of the trolls since there's no... real reason for them to have gender at all, except vestigially?

Also, these were both very nicely done and impressively in character. (John is the sweetest. The sweetest ever. )

[lucidSeraph]

I admit, my headcanon for the trolls is that they don't have biological gender, and that male / female is just a personality trait for them! Hell, I could see one of them flip-flopping and it's just no thang because who cares.

"oh guess youre femme noww wwell wwhatevver"

... why do I want the androgyne to be Karkles. HE JUST DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THIS GENDER FOOLISHNESS, WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE CARE. IT'S JUST LIKE ROLEPLAYING GAMES, USELESS CRAP FOR IDIOTS.

[Bufu]

I'm surprised nobody has played around with troll gender more in fic! It could be interesting to write about a society where gender roles are purely mental and social concepts, and switching between them is pretty common.

I have no idea how you'd explain females having breasts but female trolls having breasts didn't make sense to begin with.

On a very tangentially related note, I'm also big on the idea that females are actually the more aggressive gender, and that troll society is a matriachy. Since I'm lazy I'll just point you towards this post.

man by troll standards, that does make Karkat kind of femme with how hellbent he is on being the leader and being so FULL OF RAGE.

[Kassiopeia]

@Bufu and Seraph AAA this may be my new headcanon, ahahaha. That's fantastic. I mean, Andrew said on Formspring at some point that from a storytelling point of view the real reason the trolls have a concept of gender is to make them more identifiable for us, so it's not even much of a stretch away from actual canon.

man I really want to draw them all flipped turnways now but I'm not sure it would even make a whole lot of difference. Definitely pisses me off when people draw girl-Karkles and he is suddenly all blushing and ~emotional :/

[lucidSeraph]

On a very tangentially related note, I'm also big on the idea that females are actually the more aggressive gender, and that troll society is a matriachy. Since I'm lazy I'll just point you towards this post.

That post is freaking amazing and it is now headcanon for me. It makes. So much sense.

Well, let's look at Karkat then. By that post and troll society standards, he has a lot of feminine qualities - he's an aggressive, take-charge loudmouth. On the other hand, he likes romantic comedies and is, in the end, a jerk with a heart of gold. Much like most androgynes I know, he's got qualities of both genders, kind of blends the two, dresses in a fairly neutral fashion (of all the trolls he's probably the LEAST flamboyant - even Sollux has dem shades).

I also love this Eridan-as-a-Tomgirl thing hahaha.

[DJ-P0N3]

You know what, i'm just going to drop this and leave.
Because this stupidity is what happens when I listen to the Squiddle album.

The Squiddle who didn't have a tangle buddy

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Once upon a time Squiggler went out to play with all of his friends in the Coral of Cuddling. When he got there he floated on over to Twiddler, the most nervous of all Squiddles. He was all alone and twiddling his tentacles like usual. Now Squiggler isn’t a mean and nosy Squiddle, but he knows when a friend is down in the muck! Do you know what to do when a friend is down in the muck kids?

Yeah!

You do? What is it?

Cheer them up!

That’s right! Cheer them up!

Squiggler squeezed his friend Twiddler with a Tangle cuddle as tight and as friendly as he could! Twiddler got very nervous, as he often does, and spit out some of his ink! It got in Squiggler’s eyes and he started to cry Squiddle tears. Twiddler felt bad about it and apologized to Squiggler.

“oh…sq-squiggler I am so sorry! I was so nervous I just had to ink!”

“Itz okay Twiddler! You juzt need to get over that!”

“But Squiggler, I don’t even h-have a ta-tangle buddy!”

“You don’t?!”

Now this is a sad thing to happen to a Squiddle. When a Squiddle doesn’t have a tangle buddy they can get lonely and sad, and turn into an Octobully. And no one likes Octobullies, not even another Octobully. So Squiggler had to do what any good friend would do, he had to get Twiddler a tangle buddy! Now I know what you’re thinking, why can’t Squiggler be Twiddler’s tangle buddy? Well I’ll tell you why kids! Squiddles can only have one tangle buddy, and if a Squiddle ever takes another tangle buddy they burn in the pits of cheating clams. You don’t want Squiggler to burn, do you kids?

Do you?

No!

Good! Now remember this goes for you too kids! Never cheat or take another tangle buddy when you already have one, or you’ll burn too!

Hehehe, yeah!

Squiggler and Twiddler went out looking for a tangle buddy. They went to the Blue Lagoon, but there were no Squiddles there. They went to Rainbow Rock bottom, but there were no tangle buddies there. They traveled all across the deep blue ocean. They ran into all of their friends, but all of them already had tangle buddies! Pretty soon Twiddler was starting to feel down in the muck again.

“Aww Squiggler, I d-don’t think I’ll e-ever get a ta-tangle buddy!”

“Don’t be zo gloomy Twiddler, I am zure we’ll find you one!”

“But w-we’ve looked everywhere!”

“Not everywhere.”

Twiddler and Squiggler headed off to the one place no squiddle should ever, EVER go. They headed to the Stinky Fish Shallows, where the Octobullies and Murky Brineswallows were. Twiddler was very nervous, so nervous that he inked! It got everywhere and drew the attention of some of the Octobullies, but Squiggler wasn’t scared. He was a brave Squiddle, like all good girls and boys should be. Right kids?

Right!

They had to be careful not to anger any of the Octobullies or Murky Brineswallows because if they did they might get hurt, or worse! Squiggler approached one of the Octobullies and tried to get his attention the way all Squiddles do. With a tickle fight! Come on, do it with us kids!

Tickle tickle

tickle tickle

tickle tickle tickle

tickle tickle tickle

Tickle!

Tickle!

Good job kids, you got the Octobullies attention! He looks a little grumpy, but not angry! Squiggler told that Octobully all about Twiddler and how he needed a tangle buddy. That Octobully felt really bad for Twiddler, he knew what it was like to not have a tangle buddy, in fact, that’s how he became one. Twiddler approaches the Octobully, he is very nervous and almost inks again. The Octobully is also nervous, but the two of them get over it and they become tangle buddies! Wrapping tentacles together into a nice big cuddle! That Octobully goes back to being a Squiddle, and not just any Squiddle, it was Twiddler and Squiggler’s old friend Tea Cups!

Squiggler, Twiddler, and Tea Cups went back to the Coral of Cuddling where all the Squiddles had a great big tickle fight! That’s all the time we have for today to watch the Squiddles today, see you next time kids!

Good bye!

Bye!

[Kawa]

I'm surprised nobody has played around with troll gender more in fic!

This inspires me to do a Population wherein an obvious problem arises.

I have no idea how you'd explain females having breasts but female trolls having breasts didn't make sense to begin with.

I did that

[SkaianRedeemer]

@X15: That was great! I can't really add anything anyone else hasn't already said. It was great!

@MayorSillyBiscuits: ... Write more of this nonsense RIGHT NOW.

[Rimbaum]

Uh. Fantroll black romance femslash, or at least a start of it. Wanted to get a little bit of feedback before continuing this silliness.

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Sarlex looked up at the sky, grinning as she watched her lusus descend towards the ocean. The gigantic sky-shark had a rainbow of blood staining its mouth, and Sarlex chuckled quietly as she rubbed its nose. "Have a nice meal, did we?" The massive jaws, easily big enough to swallow a young troll whole, gnashed and the shark nudged at Sarlex. When it came to its ward, though, it was surprisingly gentle.

After a pat to her lusus's nose, Sarlex turned back to her hive. She and her lusus shared a lovely indigo shade of blood, which just barely seemed to get them in with the underwater aristocracy. But she had never really cared about that. Sure, Sarlex knew that the aristocrats were supposed to lead the others, demand their respect and attention... but she didn't really care. She lived near the ocean because it was convenient for her lusus to hunt. And hunt it did – she admired sharks for their ruthlessness, their cold, mechanical urge to kill. It was a trait she tried to emulate, with more success than most of her so-called friends found entirely comfortable.

That, of course, only made Sarlex ecstatic. Knowing that others feared her, feared the inevitability of death whenever they saw or talked to her – that was power. She sat down at her computer, looking at her Trollian program to see who all was available to be bothered. Sadly, she had a message waiting for her. Only one person ever bothered messaging her; anyone else, she was the one to initiate conversation. "What does she want?" Sarlex scowled, her perfectly good mood turning black.


gryphonsOutlook [GO] started trolling apatheticAssassin [AA]

[GO]: heyy, Sarlex
[GO]: i heard yyou were going to tryy yyour finnyy little fangs at the new game
[GO]: i'll be expecting yyou in there
[GO]: see yyou soon
[AA]: jeeez
[AA]: dont you ever look to see if im away?
[AA]: some people have lives
[GO]: that
[GO]: that is the most ridiculouslyy ironic thing i have ever had the misfortune of hearing from yyour overlyy obsessed mouth
[AA]: oh no!
[AA]: how often have we actually talked?
[AA]: like
[AA]: actually talked
[AA]: face to face
[GO]: that's not the point
[GO]: the point
[GO]: is that i'm going to be on yyour team for a change
[GO]: and keep yyou from doing something horriblyy nastyy to the others
[AA]: no
[AA]: no you are not
[AA]: dont you even dare
[GO]: too late

gryphonsOutlook [GO] has ceased trolling apatheticAssassin [AA]


Sarlex snarled, shoving the clutter away from her computer. She couldn't stand that stupidly heroic little know-it-all. Vimala made her indigo blood boil in absolute rage, in a way that no other troll could ever come close to; she was a goody-two-shoes who thwarted every turn of Sarlex's plots. The very first moment she had, Vimala was as good as dead. But first, she had to find out who had arranged for this outrageous team setup.


apatheticAssassin [AA] started trolling emptyParadise [EP]

[AA]: ferrus
[AA]: why is vimala on my team?
[EP]: oh hey sarlex
[EP]: yeah, about that
[EP]: vImala InsIsted
[EP]: I thought It was a good Idea
[EP]: you can get a bIt
[EP]: IntImIdatIng
[EP]: the others thInk she can
[AA]: i dont care what the others think
[EP]: keep you under control
[AA]: the others can kiss my bone bulge
[EP]: see
[EP]: that's the thIng
[EP]: you don't care about anythIng
[EP]: except seeIng stuff dIe
[AA]: now youre starting to get it!
[EP]: that's
[AA]: forget about finding something that has an i in it
[AA]: just say it
[EP]: fIne
[EP]: you're dangerous
[EP]: for any troll to even be around
[AA]: that wasn't so hard, see?
[EP]: quIet
[EP]: I know you're In the beautIful black throes of a kIsmesIs wIth her
[EP]: but
[EP]: everyone else is afraId to be your moIraIl
[EP]: and vImala keeps you
[EP]: In lIne
[EP]: at least enough to allow others to get closer
[AA]: vimala is not
[AA]: where are you getting these lies?
[EP]: no lIes
[EP]: It's as plaIn as the webbIng between your fIngers

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[egregiousBass]

Oh wow wow, that transgender fic is wonderful. Also John/Jade sibling adorableness.

[Kawa]

brb writing some eridan homowoobie.

I feel uncomfortable already.

[Bufu]

hahah now I kind of want to see a fic where Karkat just wanders in in a skirt or something being his usual ornery self, all the trolls smoothly switch to female pronouns without even making any mention of it, and John, Jade and Rose are completely confused.

[X15lm204]

I'm very glad that Identical was well received, but I feel I must specify something that I really should have put in the first post but forgot to: neither of the fics I linked to are mine! The first was written by Bufu, the second by a livejournal anon who is not me. I was just playing around with their crayons, and hope they won't mind if I return them slightly worn! Just want to make sure credit goes where it's due, in case it wasn't clear.

@Troll Gender Discussion: That's interesting to think about. I imagine that troll gender would be at least partially biological, though physical differences might be minor, and be more involved than just thinking "I'll be a girl today, better get out a dress instead of a suit!" Maybe significant changes in personality could lead to sufficient hormonal shifts to trigger a change in biological sex - especially likely and maybe even happening by accident in puberty. There's plenty of precedent in nature for animals that spontaneously change sexes to better suit their environment.

If this was the case, I imagine the trolls would find transgendered humans extremely confusing.

ooooo somebody write this pleeeaaase

@MayorSillyBiscuits: Gotta love how this cutesy little thing somehow gives you the willies just because of the names attached! Impossible not to wonder how this sort of behavior translates from Squiddle to Horrorterror.

@Rimbaum: Interesting start. I've been wanting to see how a black/white mixed relationship might go down, and not only because I ship Terezi♦♠Vriska and Equius♦♠Gamzee (lolwut). Looking forward to seeing more.

[Kawa]

Bufu, that would be lovely.

Maybe significant changes in personality could lead to sufficient hormonal shifts to trigger a change in biological sex - especially likely and maybe even happening by accident in puberty. There's plenty of precedent in nature for animals that spontaneously change sexes to better suit their environment.

That sure would help in what I'm writing right now

[lucidSeraph]

Bufu, that would be lovely.

Maybe significant changes in personality could lead to sufficient hormonal shifts to trigger a change in biological sex - especially likely and maybe even happening by accident in puberty. There's plenty of precedent in nature for animals that spontaneously change sexes to better suit their environment.

That sure would help in what I'm writing right now

That sounds reasonable to me, esp considering how wacky Troll biology is anyway! It'd probably take a day or so for those vestigal secondary sexual characteristics to show up though, and individuals who switch a lot wouldn't be as well, ahem, developed as ones who just stuck with one gender

(ex: Equius is probably a guy all the time; Kanaya is probably a girl all the time. Other characters, well...)

[Kassiopeia]

hahah now I kind of want to see a fic where Karkat just wanders in in a skirt or something being his usual ornery self, all the trolls smoothly switch to female pronouns without even making any mention of it, and John, Jade and Rose are completely confused.

Oh that has the potential to be quite lovely

e: @Seraph I was thinking about Equius and how much I approve of the apparent fan tradition of drawing him cross-dressing, but actually I think it is his super-masculinity that makes that awesome, so, uh, I agree with you? XD (but surely Kan would at least try swapping briefly? If only because she would make the cutest scene boy ever.)

[Kawa]

Did I say Eridan homowoobie? I think I did.

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Shortly after that yellow bastard Sollux had somehow talked Feferi into this deranged practice that Karkat and and Terezi had introduced, Eridan Ampora was certain he could outdo them and earn a bit of respect.

Respect.

He had lost a lot of that over time.

All he needed was a partner. The thought brought back memories of the game, and the futile attempts at getting any sort of romantic partner at the time. Back to the present, though.

Eridan wondered to himself why all the pairings so far were male/female, but couldn't quite put his blingy finger on it. He had missed the all-too-important explanation from the Harley human, and all he had to go on was his functional knowledge of the thousands of years old but now outmoded mothergrub/drone system.

He thought back to that one time when he begged Mindfang to hate him like she used to, and all she would grant him was the mother of all bitchslaps. It was a simple leap of logic that you didn't need to properly be in any quadrant to do this Human-style sexing thing, so all Eridan would need was a willing but temporary partner. He was certain that the Humans would have a term for it, but "one night stand" would never enter his lexicon. Because that would've been silly.

"Hey Gam, do you havve a moment?"

"Always, my most conquesty motherfucker. What's up?"

"Look, Gam... I know people don't like me wery much and in retrospect I can imagine why."

"Yeah dude, you are kind of a dick but it's great to acknowledge that kind of things about yourself y'know?"

"Quite, quite. Now listen up. You are a highblood, Gam, and also one of the least hateful Trolls I know."

Gamzee nodded, a hint of pride hidden behind his stoned-out smile.

"Now I'm not asking you to fill a goddamned quadrant with me here..."

"Coming from you, that's a mIrAcLe right there."

"...but Gam ol' buddy... I have a favor to ask of you."

"Name it, fishfingers."

"I need you to do that sex thing with me."

Gamzee promptly choked on the Faygo he was drinking between sentences, spraying most of it all over Eridan's face.

"Holy motherfuck, man! That's a little fuckin' direct ain't that?"

"...I know. Meet me at my place in ten if you're cool with this."

"Right on motherfucker."

~~~

-- caligulasAquarium [CG] began trolling grimAuxiliatrix [GA] --

CA: and so i made an evven bigger ass of myself
CA: and find myself just floating around in the lake
GA: Because Youre Butthurt In A Literal As Well As Figurative Sense
GA: This Is Actually Amusing To Me
CA: kaaaan
GA: Seriously Eridan
GA: Youve Wired Up A Computer And Such Before
GA: You Shouldve Been Familiar With The Plug And Socket Metaphor
GA: Even I Am
CA: evven you are
CA: and thats horrible

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TC: hOnK hOnK mOtHeRfUcKeRs! :o)

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[lucidSeraph]

hahah now I kind of want to see a fic where Karkat just wanders in in a skirt or something being his usual ornery self, all the trolls smoothly switch to female pronouns without even making any mention of it, and John, Jade and Rose are completely confused.

Oh that has the potential to be quite lovely

e: @Seraph I was thinking about Equius and how much I approve of the apparent fan tradition of drawing him cross-dressing, but actually I think it is his super-masculinity that makes that awesome, so, uh, I agree with you? XD (but surely Kan would at least try swapping briefly? If only because she would make the cutest scene boy ever.)

Haha! Yes, of course :3

[Caprisaurus]

Did I say Eridan homowoobie? I think I did.

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Shortly after that yellow bastard Sollux had somehow talked Feferi into this deranged practice that Karkat and and Terezi had introduced, Eridan Ampora was certain he could outdo them and earn a bit of respect.

Respect.

He had lost a lot of that over time.

All he needed was a partner. The thought brought back memories of the game, and the futile attempts at getting any sort of romantic partner at the time. Back to the present, though.

Eridan wondered to himself why all the pairings so far were male/female, but couldn't quite put his blingy finger on it. He had missed the all-too-important explanation from the Harley human, and all he had to go on was his functional knowledge of the thousands of years old but now outmoded mothergrub/drone system.

He thought back to that one time when he begged Mindfang to hate him like she used to, and all she would grant him was the mother of all bitchslaps. It was a simple leap of logic that you didn't need to properly be in any quadrant to do this Human-style sexing thing, so all Eridan would need was a willing but temporary partner. He was certain that the Humans would have a term for it, but "one night stand" would never enter his lexicon. Because that would've been silly.

"Hey Gam, do you havve a moment?"

"Always, my most conquesty motherfucker. What's up?"

"Look, Gam... I know people don't like me wery much and in retrospect I can imagine why."

"Yeah dude, you are kind of a dick but it's great to acknowledge that kind of things about yourself y'know?"

"Quite, quite. Now listen up. You are a highblood, Gam, and also one of the least hateful Trolls I know."

Gamzee nodded, a hint of pride hidden behind his stoned-out smile.

"Now I'm not asking you to fill a goddamned quadrant with me here..."

"Coming from you, that's a mIrAcLe right there."

"...but Gam ol' buddy... I have a favor to ask of you."

"Name it, fishfingers."

"I need you to do that sex thing with me."

Gamzee promptly choked on the Faygo he was drinking between sentences, spraying most of it all over Eridan's face.

"Holy motherfuck, man! That's a little fuckin' direct ain't that?"

"...I know. Meet me at my place in ten if you're cool with this."

"Right on motherfucker."

~~~

-- caligulasAquarium [CG] began trolling grimAuxiliatrix [GA] --

CA: and so i made an evven bigger ass of myself
CA: and find myself just floating around in the lake
GA: Because Youre Butthurt In A Literal As Well As Figurative Sense
GA: This Is Actually Amusing To Me
CA: kaaaan
GA: Seriously Eridan
GA: Youve Wired Up A Computer And Such Before
GA: You Shouldve Been Familiar With The Plug And Socket Metaphor
GA: Even I Am
CA: evven you are
CA: and thats horrible

-- caligulasAquarium [CG] ceased trolling grimAuxiliatrix [GA] --



TC: hOnK hOnK mOtHeRfUcKeRs! )

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Did you hear the sound of my drink going all over the screen while I'm choking and laughing?
Because it was pretty damn loud and it made me love this fic afhajsjkfha
Yessssss
now excuse me I got to find a towel to mop this all up with..

[Kawa]

hahah now I kind of want to see a fic where Karkat just wanders in in a skirt or something being his usual ornery self, all the trolls smoothly switch to female pronouns without even making any mention of it, and John, Jade and Rose are completely confused.

GP: mamma
GP: pappa is wa1king around in on3 of aunti3 kanayas dr3ss3s
GC: Y34H SO?

Ninja edit!

Did you hear the sound of my drink going all over the screen while I'm choking and laughing?

Consider your avatar. Now consider Gamzee's reaction.

I'm on a horsaroni.