IDE/Theory Thread 18: John's fraymotif is a pie banjo. Pass it on.

[PriffyViole]

IDE/Theory: John's peanut allergy is going to bite him in the ass later.

[Varkarrus]

IDE/Theory: John's peanut allergy is going to bite him in the ass later.

This. I wish, at least.

[Cervos]

IDE/Theory: John's peanut allergy is going to bite him in the ass later.

This. I wish, at least.

He is deathly allergic to the Peanut Gallery's scorn.

[avidGamer]

I just realized that Cal's proportions fit Lord English's coat surprisingly well.

I'm not saying Cal's Lord English, but... :X

I am.

[Warriorccc0]

I just realized that Cal's proportions fit Lord English's coat surprisingly well.

I'm not saying Cal's Lord English, but... :X

I've thought this forever, and now with the update and showing the coat, I'm pretty damn sure he is somehow VERY related to Lord English.

[lexavian]

I just realized that Cal's proportions fit Lord English's coat surprisingly well.

I'm not saying Cal's Lord English, but... :X

I've thought this forever, and now with the update and showing the coat, I'm pretty damn sure he is somehow VERY related to Lord English.

I'm telling ya', it's a felt herring. I'm fairly certain he's going to contribute to Doc Scratch.

[Henry Spencer]

Theory: Lord English is summoned by destroying the Green Sun.

[zebtrestalala]

IDE/Theory: Lil Cal in a suit is the Halley equivalent of Doc Scratch. Meaning that as DD/AR used Halley's slime to make Bec, Lil' Cal's slime will be used to make Doc Scratch (along with the code). It just makes sense, seeing as no one else with human proportions exists on alternia (or else he would have horns or something). Also, Doc Scratch is kind of Lord English's puppet, right?

[irishtaurus]

IDE/Theory: Lord English is going to parody or rip apart pop music like Kesha's Tik-Tok with his own Felt's classical music.

I'm guessing this due to the code summoning English involves the words 'Tick-Tock', and I would be a fan of his if during his consistent appearances, he looked down and tore apart Kesha and other crap like that. Highly doubt it, though, as this is a guess and nothing more

[Steel Dragon]

Theory: Lord English is summoned by destroying the Green Sun.

OOH.
Huh.
That would mean that the First Guardians' methods enabling English's arrival are to become so powerful and inconvenient to their universe that they warrant destruction. I dunno, I think Rose's plan to destroy the Green Sun is too much of a detour from the "average" S***b playthrough to be the norm/only way, although it would be interesting if that made matters worse for the kids/trolls. Knowing Hussie, it is almost certainly going to.

[cbh66]

IDE/Theory: Aradia was the one to create Doc Scratch, using the codes and a yet unknown being. Perhaps she was told to do so by the voices of the dead. It would explain how she knows about everything that is going on.

[NachoGrande96]

IDE/Theory: Based on the latest SBaHJ, someone is going to shoa their stabs to someone who is currently asleep. And seeing how Jade is the only one in a bed...

oh nooooooooooooo

[zebtrestalala]

Either that or Dave's going to start shaving all over Jade's face.

[NachoGrande96]

I think one of two things will happen:

*CD will be sitting on Jade's bed holding a Regisword when she wakes up.

or

*John will be putting that ton of Barbasol to good use.

[BL1ND PR0PH3T]

IDE/Theory: The fact that there's thirteen instead of the expected twelve letters for the code that shall possibly be used to make Doc Scratch is a foreshadow of the fact that a thirteenth troll really does exist.

With Becquerel, there were four letters (there's four kids), and it would make sense that there would be twelve with the trolls, but for some reason there's 13. Meaning that maybe the 13th troll myth is actually not so invalid after all.

[TheGentleman]

IDE: Troll DNA has 16 letters/symbols, as oppoesed to the human 4. (probably obvious but shhh)

Except not. We have:

t,1,0,c,k,8,r,h,3,4,d,s. That's Twelve. Oh shit! One letter for each player.

[Toast]

[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): the codes from the wall will be combined with lil cal to make doc scratch
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): just like how bec was made
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): out of MEOW
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): the flarp books are like rose's meow diary
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): 4/12 trolls = 1/4 = 1/4 kids
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): see
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): "completing the code for our sessions architect "
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): "not exactly" refers to cal
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): not being in the equation yet
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): oh and bro is the right size for the coat if you consider
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): That bro is bigger then dave, and that dave and karkat are around the same size, and that
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): spades slick's size compared to karkat
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): then compared to the coat
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): is about the same size as bro
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): also bro may get time perks due to being the knight of time's bro
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): "[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): And the felt are bro's puppets
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): because puppets are made out of...
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): FELT

Just gonna leave this here for all of you.

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[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): the codes from the wall will be combined with lil cal to make doc scratch
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): just like how bec was made
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): out of MEOW
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): the flarp books are like rose's meow diary
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): 4/12 trolls = 1/4 = 1/4 kids
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): see
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): "completing the code for our sessions architect "
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): "not exactly" refers to cal
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): not being in the equation yet
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): oh and bro is the right size for the coat if you consider
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): That bro is bigger then dave, and that dave and karkat are around the same size, and that
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): spades slick's size compared to karkat
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): then compared to the coat
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): is about the same size as bro
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): also bro may get time perks due to being the knight of time's bro
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): "[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): And the felt are bro's puppets
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): because puppets are made out of...
[S] CaptAL Planet (Al Gore): FELT

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Just gonna leave this here for all of you.

Except. 4/12 trolls=1/3. Y'alls been MATH'D

[Shadow of the Lotus]

Ide/Theory: The frog nonsense that Jade and Kanaya have to do actually creates the medium their in; it doesn't create another universe like where the kids' or trolls' came from. Those universes are created by winning the game. So, Jade would be responsible for creating the medium that John, Rose, Dave, and Jade play in; similarly for Kanaya and her medium. While Kanaya was successful in creating a good medium, Jade fails at making the perfect frog and instead of a medium destined for victory, she creates one with The Tumor.

[Protoman]

The Slenderman and Doc Scratch are alternate versions of each other.

Both are classy, and have a facination with suits.

Both are nearly omnipotent, and mysterious as hell.

Both have completely blank faces.

They are quite clearly twins.

IDE/Theory: Slenderman was originally one of Bro's other puppets, specifically the one that made Dave's red suit. He is earth's TRUE first guardian.

Denied his post by Becquerel, he slowly went insane, and is now trying to destroy what he was designed to protect.

ALTERNATE REALITY POSSIBILITY: If bec had been denied instead, he would have been Slenderdog.

[Paneki]

OH GOG, ANYTHING BUT SLENDY

[HarMegidon]

The Slenderman and Doc Scratch are alternate versions of each other.

Both are classy, and have a facination with suits.

Both are nearly omnipotent, and mysterious as hell.

Both have completely blank faces.

They are quite clearly twins.

IDE/Theory: Slenderman was originally one of Bro's other puppets, specifically the one that made Dave's red suit. He is earth's TRUE first guardian.

Denied his post by Becquerel, he slowly went insane, and is now trying to destroy what he was designed to protect.

ALTERNATE REALITY POSSIBILITY: If bec had been denied instead, he would have been Slenderdog.

Since when was tearing out people's organs and haphazardly putting them back in the wrong way around classy?

[Jergmo9064]

IDE/Theory: Charles Dutton is a descendent of the blind prophets of Alternia, from a theorized previous Troll session of Sgrub. He filed his horns down and colored over the stubs with flesh-colored makeup. He was only blinded within the past few years by an early Reckoning meteor, after which he wrote his book.

[Legendary]

IDE/Theory: This requires a bit of a timeline. Two in fact:

TIMELINE 1

1. Doc Scratch influences the four FLARPers and has them assemble their parts of his DNA.
2. Aradiabot beats the shit out of Vriska, skips to the end.
3. Once there, DD tells her to go to LOTAM, get the notebook or whatever Gamzee will use, and then travel back to him when the battle is won.
4. The battle is won.
5. Jack appears and kills some of the trolls, including Eridan. One of the doomed!Aradia bots panics after a moment or two and teleports each of the kids back to their Respiteblocks.
6. Gamzee, traumatized, creates the Honk code.
7. Aradiabot pulls herself together and gathers as many of the surviving trolls as possible in the Veil.
8. The trolls and the kids interact as normal, perhaps with minor variations but still Jack is created blah blah blah.
9. Aradiabot goes back to DD with Gamzee's notebook and makes Doc Scratch with him. She then exiles him and he eventually finds her console.
10. Gamzee goes on a complete killing spree well before 4:13:00 and wipes out the surviving trolls, including Kanaya. He uses her blood for his miracles and she is unable to respawn.
11. Aradiabot decides that things can't end like this, and travels back to the battlefield, creating a new timeline.

TIMELINE 2

1. Doc Scratch influences the four FLARPers and has them assemble their parts of his DNA.
2. Aradia beats the shit out of Vriska, skips to the end.
3. DD does not contact Aradia when she arrives at the battlefield because she doesn't tell him to tell her.
4. The battle is won.
5. Jack appears. Aradiabot skips the part where he gets a few hits in and teleports everyone to the Veil right away.
6. The Doomed!Aradia's are killed. Aradiabot is sent to the past with Lil'Cal. Gamzee isn't traumatized enough to make any codes. Success!
7. The events of the main timeline happen as we've seen them.
8. Aradia leaves the Furthest Ring and goes back to her Session to, among other things, pester Dave.
9. She takes the codes back into the past and goes to pre-Exile DD.
10. They make Doc Scratch together and send him back in time. Aradia then exiles DD and he eventually finds her console.

Best explanation for how these two timelines interact, amirite?

[spookysage]

IDE: Troll DNA has 16 letters/symbols, as oppoesed to the human 4. (probably obvious but shhh)

Except not. We have:

t,1,0,c,k,8,r,h,3,4,d,s. That's Twelve. Oh shit! One letter for each player.

Now they're sitting at fourteen characters, or nineteen if upper and lower case are different bits. Well, crap, neither of those numbers mean anything!

...well, it's thirteen if you count the numbers as letters and discard substitutes. Or twenty-six if the substitute characters between different trolls don't actually mean the same thing and they're all recording different bits of code - Roboradia said Gamzee has eight more characters, but only two of them (or one, or five) are ones we haven't seen before.

Man, this is too complicated. Either they're missing some code still or we won't know a thing 'til we get told.