TROLLSLUM 5: More trolls than your thread name has room for

[Captain Whosit]

Yeah, pretty much. 1 is stupidly sane and normal, 9 is...well...uh. Not Safe At All.

Oh, is that how the scale goes? Well, then...

Salom Ebadi: 0
Arness Waynvern: Oh, let's say 5.

An unwillingness to change is a sign of ignorance! Besides the fact that it goes against canon in a huge way (though I'm sure not many care) it'd be interesting to see how new trolls are developed based on this new information.

I'm pretty sure a good chunk of what goes on contradicts canon anyway, so I'm not concerned. Much as I'm a stickler for such things, Roleplaying should be done for fun primarily, and I have fun coming up with meaningful symbols for my characters, among other things.

[Altum]

What new information exactly contradicts Trollslum stuff? Except for people who haven't been using symbols, I guess, but most people do because it's so clearly a Thing in the comic, even for humans.

[Marshmellow]

How does this change anything? It was specifically noted that there is a huge alphabet for each caste to choose their symbol from Unless you meant something else?

[scintillatingMoniker]

Does it necessarily say the symbols they wear HAVE to be related to their caste or birthdate? I always knew that the trolls's own symbols had something to do with their birth, but I just figured "hey, it doesn't HAVE to be that, right?"

[privateTenderloin]

I've already worked these new developments into both of my trolls so I don't see the issue.

[Caprisaurus]

I'm...
considering doing what PT did.
It'd be interesting to do but a bit of a problem.

Also
Sorry I didn't respond earlier!
I was up for a bit and had loud music on and when I finally noticed pesterchum I felt SO STUPID
So sorry PT

[hyperkineticSalvo]

How does this change anything? It was specifically noted that there is a huge alphabet for each caste to choose their symbol from Unless you meant something else?

Vriska actually said class and not caste. If she had meant caste, she would have said caste. I suppose this is something we will have to "wait and see".

If she was indeed referring to caste and I'm just overanalyzing, people in different castes with the same symbol on trollslum ( a big example that comes to mind is the sun symbol ) would be an impossibility.

[uncannyUroboros]

/returns
Ok, then, that's how it works. Jeez, I think Erebus would be a 7 maybe? 8-9 when he's really upset. He flips his lid on occasion, as you from the cafe all know too well~
Charyb is maybe a 4. When he goes to KULLryb, though, that's pretty unpleasant.

[Marshmellow]

How does this change anything? It was specifically noted that there is a huge alphabet for each caste to choose their symbol from Unless you meant something else?

Vriska actually said class and not caste. If she had meant caste, she would have said caste. I suppose this is something we will have to "wait and see".

If she was indeed referring to caste and I'm just overanalyzing, people in different castes with the same symbol on trollslum ( a big example that comes to mind is the sun symbol ) would be an impossibility.

Either way it is specifically an alphabet that they are choosing from, which means there are lots of symbols, but that a symbol clash is still possible. That is the whole point of ancestor trolls, after all.

[privateTenderloin]

No problem. I've been busy making Ryus go batshit crazy anyway.

[hyperkineticSalvo]

From what we can gather about troll culture, there would be no reason at all for a symbol clash. Regardless of each individual troll's view on the hemospectrum, it is deeply ingrained in their culture and to think that there could be a potential clash of symbols between, let's say a royal blood and a mutant blood, is an absurdity.

[Pandemonius]

Updated Fragor to have an actual symbol.



"Total and sudden change or upheaval, unpredictability, modern science, anarchy and the destruction of the established order" according to symbols.com. YEP, I'D SAY THAT PRETTY MUCH FITS.

Now if only I could coerce someone into doing an Alterniabound sprite for him. That person would surely have my undying gratitude.

[Marshmellow]

From what we can gather about troll culture, there would be no reason at all for a symbol clash. Regardless of each individual troll's view on the hemospectrum, it is deeply ingrained in their culture and to think that there could be a potential clash of symbols between, let's say a royal blood and a mutant blood, is an absurdity.

I thought you said it was based on class not blood

Now if it IS based on blood, the mutant bloods might be a special case. I imagine if they just take any old symbol they want then a clash between royal and mutant is actually more likely than any other pair of unlikely ancestors.

But oh well. I suppose this means we'll have to keep a giant list o' symbols in the OP now, so that no two trolls *accidentally* come up with the same symbol. Because that would be wrong.

Updated Fragor to have an actual symbol.



"Total and sudden change or upheaval, unpredictability, modern science, anarchy and the destruction of the established order" according to symbols.com. YEP, I'D SAY THAT PRETTY MUCH FITS.

Now if only I could coerce someone into doing an Alterniabound sprite for him. That person would surely have my undying gratitude.

TERRORISTS AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

[scintillatingMoniker]

From what we can gather about troll culture, there would be no reason at all for a symbol clash. Regardless of each individual troll's view on the hemospectrum, it is deeply ingrained in their culture and to think that there could be a potential clash of symbols between, let's say a royal blood and a mutant blood, is an absurdity.

I think that with the sheer number of trolls there are, a symbol clash is incredibly likely whether or not the trolls try to avoid it.

[hyperkineticSalvo]

From what we can gather about troll culture, there would be no reason at all for a symbol clash. Regardless of each individual troll's view on the hemospectrum, it is deeply ingrained in their culture and to think that there could be a potential clash of symbols between, let's say a royal blood and a mutant blood, is an absurdity.

I thought you said it was based on class not blood

Now if it IS based on blood, the mutant bloods might be a special case. I imagine if they just take any old symbol they want then a clash between royal and mutant is actually more likely than any other pair of unlikely ancestors.

But oh well. I suppose this means we'll have to keep a giant list o' symbols in the OP now, so that no two trolls *accidentally* come up with the same symbol. Because that would be wrong.

I did, but I conceded that I may be overanalyzing this fact and we continued the discussion from that viewpoint.

Even if it wasn't a mutant blood, and it was a red/orange/yellow blood. I highly doubt the royal castes would even let that happen. Still an absurdity.

I never said it would be wrong for two trolls to have the same symbol, there is just a new level of complexity that arrives when discussing a potential troll's symbol and their class/caste what-have-you.

[scintillatingMoniker]

I read through Vriska's speech again and I see nothing linking symbols to caste or class, just that the adult legend figure shares their birth symbol. Since those 12 trolls did stick with their birth symbols instead of our trolls, who just made up symbols, it's not as complicated.

Basically all this means is that our ancestors aren't going to have the same symbols as our trolls.

[Altum]

She uses class for blood color in that same conversation!

[Marshmellow]

So you are saying that people should be making symbols for their trolls that in some way represent their personalities, characters, or ambitions. You make a compelling argument.

[hyperkineticSalvo]

I read through Vriska's speech again and I see nothing linking symbols to caste or class, just that the adult legend figure shares their birth symbol. Since those 12 trolls did stick with their birth symbols instead of our trolls, who just made up symbols, it's not as complicated.

Basically all this means is that our ancestors aren't going to have the same symbols as our trolls.

We don't know if those 12 trolls stuck with their birth symbols or not.

So you are saying that people should be making symbols for their trolls that in some way represent their personalities, characters, or ambitions. You make a compelling argument.

This is not at all what I'm saying or implying.

Forget it.

[scintillatingMoniker]

It's mentioned in someone's intro that their symbols are the troll version of the zodiac. Except theirs has something like 48 symbols and we only get to see the 12 that are identical to our zodiac.

[Altum]

It's mentioned in someone's intro that their symbols are the troll version of the zodiac. Except theirs has something like 48 symbols and we only get to see the 12 that are identical to our zodiac.

No, it isn't. The 48 sign zodiac is mentioned but it is not connected to the symbols; this is the first explanation we've gotten.

[Captain Whosit]

Um, just out of curiosity, since it seems like this conversation could go on for some time, but should we be cluttering up the thread with this line of talk? Are there threads better suited for it? I mean, I've been guilty of breaking into RP here, but at least that's related to developing Fan Trolls. This? Not so much think I.

(Prepares for harsh rebuke.)

[Pandemonius]

I don't remember anyone saying that the troll's shirt symbols were part of their own zodiac. I thought they were just the influence of the earth zodiac.

Also, I don't think it's entirely out of the question that a troll's "ancestor" invariably shares their blood color and/or class, due to weird destiny shit.

Blargh, ninja'd and what-have-you.

[Marshmellow]

Um, just out of curiosity, since it seems like this conversation could go on for some time, but should we be cluttering up the thread with this line of talk? Are there threads better suited for it? I mean, I've been guilty of breaking into RP here, but at least that's related to developing Fan Trolls. This? Not so much think I.

(Prepares for harsh rebuke.)

Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine. I'll just go pout in the corner instead.

[BrainpanSonata]

I think I'm starting to figure out Coraya's sanity numbers.


1-2 in normal situations (hey there dude it's all good)
4-5 when another troll trespasses on her property (defend the hive make them unalive)
anywhere from 3 to 7 whenever Scrantool is around (oh **** it's freaky glowy guy i will do anything to not die)


These numbers aren't permanent and are probably very likely to change somehow.