Hoofstuck

[OnBackorder]

You guys don't need to worry about what they do yet, because they haven't even done anything with them. Once Twilight fiddles with the controls, then you can start shouting at her to combine random ingredients that somehow create powerful weapons. useful gadgets, and poorly drawn flying skateboards. Even those commands are a ways off too, because none of the first three devices can be used on their own. Well the Cruxtruder (Crude Extruder) can be used on its own, however the Dowels do nothing on their own, and you can make as many as you want. The Alchemiter can't even produce things without the dowels, I just remembered that. Even then, an uncarved dowel is how the GENERIC OBJECTs are made. For other items to appear we need the Totem Lathe. It is also useless without the dowels and I just remembered something else while I was typing...

The Totem Lathe can't carve anything

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other then the Cruxite Artifact until the ponies pass into the medium. From there they get a few Grist from the goblin dudes and build that piano looking thing that can punch Sydex cards so that the Totem Lathe can read the codes on the cards back because the cards are somehow between tangible and intangible at any given time.

We should REALLY be telling people that things will not start making any sense until after the meteors come and ruin Ponyville.

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And quite possibly the entire planet/galaxy/universe and all its timey-wimey-stuff

[KingTwelveSixteen]

>Place APPLE TREE on ROOTS.

[OnBackorder]

And of course I posted that long rant after the update.

> Rainbow Dash: Go fiddle with AJ's console.

[Bohandas]

"tellykismesis" LOL!

[JapaneseTeeth]

"Tellykismesis" made me lol.

And good job hiding the tree, Twilight.

Also, I just want to note that I don't think Twilight teleported the group in "Sweet and Elite"; Rarity sent the letter the day before the garden party so there was more than enough time for them to travel normally, especially as Canterlot doesn't seem to be far from Ponyville. Anyway, on to the suggestions

>TS: Be Martin

>TS: Place tree on Alchemiter

>RD : Retrieve tree from other trees

[kd7sov]

> This sounds like a task for the REVISE mode, doesn't it?

And yeah, I got the same impression about the party portage that JT did. In both 1x26 and 2x01 they pretty-much-explicitly traveled overland from Ponyville to Canterlot, and didn't seem to take all that long about it either time.

[Naglfar]

TELLYKISMESIS

I'll hold off on commands for now.

[Violet CLM]

*checks episode transcript*
Ah, okay, you're right, a day did elapse between the letter and their arrival. That's good to know.

[pageturner1988]

>TS: Attempt to UNDO this horrendous arboricide.

[pageturner1988]

Reading through Rose's walkthrough, or "Lodestar" as I now recall Twilight called it after rereading a bit, and connecting some stuff mentioned in it with the ponies octal number system got me thinking. I don't know if any of this need's spoilering, but I'll do it if nothing else than to keep it minimized for people who aren't too interested.

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It was established that the ponies use an octal numbering system. This of course leads to a few issues. One is mentioned in the story, which is basically a problem of using the English language, which was developed by a culture that uses the decimal system, to talk about octal numbers. So a number that is written 10 would be called "ten" in English, but it represents "eight" in the octal numbering system. I imagine that the ponies would actually have developed their own terminology to work with their number system, but it's easier to just use English for the sake of not having to develop a new set of numerological language terms for the story. How they're written does have an affect on the captcha codes though, which will probably be coming up before too long. Since their numbering system doesn't need the characters 8 or 9, the cipher for the binary codes would need two new characters. I'm not sure what they'd be or are, if Violet's already done this, but the new cipher table would look something like this.

0->0, 1->1, 2->2, 3->3, 4->4, 5->5, 6->6, 7->7,
A->10, B->11, C->12, D->13, E->14, F->15, G->16, H->17,
I->20, J->21, K->22, L->23, M->24, N->25, O->26, P->27,
Q->30, R->31, S->32, T->33, U->34, V->35, W->36, X->37,
Y->40, Z->41, a->42, b->43, c->44, d->45, e->46, f->47,
g->50, h->51, i->52, j->53, k->54, l->55, m->56, n->57,
o->60, p->61, q->62, r->63, s->64, t->65, u->66, v->67,
w->70, x->71, y->72, z->73, ?->74, !->75, #->76, *->77

The codes do actually connect rather elegantly with the octal numbering system since there are eight characters in each captcha code on the back of cards. The number of possible characters also happens to be 80 (read sixty-four), the square of eight. Eight being a power of two helps connect it much better to binary based systems though doesn't it. I didn't see any of this mentioned before in the thread and my brain was aching to get them written out. Sorry if it seemed boring or pointless at all.

tl;dr

I'm a NERRRRRRRD.

[Donut64]

:: COMMAND STACK
>Lyra (to TS): Ctrl+Z! CTRL+Z!!!!
>TS: Wait what?
>TS: Use MAGICKIND specibus (use magic) to transmit command "CTRL+Z" to SBALE Console (repeatedly) until tree is replanted.



TS: It's time to see if REVISE can help.

[gingerale]

> TS: Try to fix things with the revise mode

[Gradiant]

TwilightApplejack.
That is all.

[Donut64]

>AJ: Suddenly feel terribly remorseful about not letting Ditzy Doo into your barn.
>RD: Talk to AJ. Recognize love triangle.
>RD: FLUSTER!

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c'mon, you gotta admit this is the best suggestion ever

::ALTERNATIVELY
>TS: Stare at AJ's plot. Imagine complimenting said character on plot.
>TS: Experience emotional confusion.
>TS: FLUSTER!

[Aranfan]

But Pageturner, didn't the Captcha cards use hexidecimal, base 16?

[JapaneseTeeth]

TwilightApplejack.
That is all.

I'm not sure if any of the ponies are capable of kismessitude. Although Gilda totally views Pinkie as her kismesis. And RD is her moiral.

Also, is it just me or has the latest update not gotten put on the MSPAfanventures site yet?

[pageturner1988]

But Pageturner, didn't the Captcha cards use hexidecimal, base 16?

Hmm, I don't think so. With hexadecimal there would only be 16 different possible characters (0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E,F,G) for each digit of the code. The captchacard codes used 64 different characters and each character was represented by a six bit binary number which is what gets punched onto the cards. At least, that's what I gathered from the captchacard code section of the walkthrough.

[Aranfan]

I'd have to reread then. But you must admit that in the case that you're right, the ponies will understand it easier because it's a multiple of the base they're used to working with.

[pageturner1988]

Oh for sure, I know Twilight's gonna really geek out over figuring it out.

[It Was A ...]

TS: You can fix this. Revise Martin. Select the icon. Trace a rectangle around the poor tree. Then expand the rectangle to include the roots.

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AJ: It is too early in the day for serious drinking. Just take a small nip. Offer some to RD. And pour out a glug for Martin. Poor think needs it.
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Much further down the road:
Spike: Be jealous. Draw a small circle with yourself in profile. Tape the circle to a SBALE console. Become part of the action.

Alternately:
Spike: While Twilight is away, use the terminal to create more terminals.
Gather them.
Enter the secret code. [Up. Up. Down. Down. Left. (um, Applejack's button in on the left.) Right. (Twilight usually turns out to be right.) Left. Right. B. (Rarity is <B>eautiful.) A. (A for Applejack)]. [That is always the secret code]
Assign them to yourself, Winona, Tank, Angel Bunny, Opal, and Gummy. Or to five ponies that you know.

[JapaneseTeeth]

I don't know much about computery stuff like that, but I think the cards get punched in 64-bit, not hexidecimal. And yeah, I'm really looking forward to when the ponies will finally get to start alchemizing stuff.

[flyingBrick]

Alas, poor Martin. We barely knew ye.

Good night, sweet prince. And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.

[nupanick]

I don't think Gilda wanted Pinkie as a kismesis. I think she just wanted a monogamous friendship with Dash. Like that was gonna happen.

Also, I just realized this may be the first time I've seen a session where stuff got deployed OUTSIDE. Since Sburb seems to be based heavily on copying the materials in the player's surroundings (e.g, Rose couldn't simply build a ladder but had to clone and rotate a ladder-like bit of existing architecture), this might make it hard to build any larger structures if only the orchard gets pulled in.

Some more ideas off the top of my head:

> Twilight: Okay, you know what Select does, now try Revise.
> Rarity: take notes on Twilight's experimenting. You can't let her get ahead of you.
> Pinkie: put your own Sbale console in a crate, then open it again.
> Fluttershy: Juicebox.

[Bohandas]

> Pinkie: put your own Sbale console in a crate, then open it again.

Seconded

[JapaneseTeeth]

I don't think Gilda wanted Pinkie as a kismesis. I think she just wanted a monogamous friendship with Dash. Like that was gonna happen.

Well of course not; MLP canon doesn't have the quadrants.

> Pinkie: put your own Sbale console in a crate, then open it again.

Thirding, with "pretending to be surprised" tacked onto the end of it.