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    Tenebrais' Repository of Charts and Graphs

    So as you can tell from my personal title, or just about any post I've made here, I like making charts of events in Homestuck. It helps me organise my thoughts about the comic, and makes the complexity a little more penetrable.
    I've been keeping a timeline of the comic for over a year now, and over the course of that year I've made a whole host of other visual aids to help people figure out how Homestuck works. With Cascade changing so many things and inspiring me to mess with so many of my charts, I figured it was time to make a thread central to all of them.

    Main Resources

    The Homestuck Timeline v7.5
    http://host-a.net/Tenebrais/HS%20Timeline.xls
    Still the crown jewel of my efforts, this puts every event in Homestuck in chronological order. Dividers break up different timestreams, and over time the timeline has spread to several worksheets, so check the tabs on the bottom. From Act 6 onwards everything will go in that third sheet, because dividing events between the four kids and five surviving trolls on opposite sides of the sheet would be incredibly unwieldy.

    Map of the Incipisphere
    Typically I've kept two versions of the map, especially now that the Incipisphere has been dismantled.
    Map of the new incipisphere
    Map in its current state
    Map in its base state
    These maps will likely become the same one once everything arrives in the new session. Possibly. We'll have to see, won't we?

    Relationships Chart
    Alpha Session
    Beta Session
    The relationship chart lists what every notable character thinks of every other notable character. It grew out of a basic chart that listed the primary romantic (or potential romantic) links between the characters, but that quickly proved inadequate.
    Eventually I split this chart into two. They may become one again as more characters interact with each other. This sort of information is getting increasingly hard to present!

    Minor Resources

    Text Colour Chart
    http://host-a.net/Tenebrais/How%20They%20Speak.doc
    If, like me, you're a stickler for getting the specific colours characters use in text, you'll want to save a copy of this. Contains RGB codes in both hex and denary. Naturally this doesn't change very often, though with the post-Scratch session coming up it probably will soon. Ish.

    Death Toll
    Static
    Animated (shows who killed them)

    A simple count of how often each character has died. Note that everything from the second row on was in Act 5 Act 2. About half of those were Jack Noir.

    The Hemospectrum
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...spectrum-1.png
    Much like the text colours, these are the hex codes for troll blood. The top row is the colour that troll types, the middle row is the colour that troll has bled. The bottom row is the colours seen on the Grand Highblood's wall, just about the only place we've seen other trolls' blood. There appear to be only 13 troll blood colours counting Karkat's, but that may just be the only ones that appeared in the comic.

    Defunct Resources

    The Troll Tracker
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...erSquare-5.png
    Back when the trolls were new and didn't have names, this helped sort out who was who. We're now all familiar with the trolls, and few enough have survived, that it's simply unnecessary.

    Dream Bubbles
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...mBubbles-1.png
    During the dream bubble sequences in Act 5 there was a lot of temporal weirdness and this might have helped keep it straight. Except there aren't a lot of connections and the way I made it kept the whole thing a real bitch to update, so I gave up on it. May get replaced if more dream bubble shenanigans happen in future.

    Grist Cache
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...istCache-1.png
    Back when things like Grist were still relevant to the comic, I kept track of what types had appeared and where they fell on the grid, under the impression that we'd eventually seen them all. Not all of these names and placements appeared in the comic but they are Word Of God - I PM'd Andrew back in Act 4 to ask about them and that's what he told me. More varieties appeared in Act 5 but now it seems a bit too minor a matter to bother him with. Odd how being in the music team has made me more apprehensive about talking to the author.

    Resources from other people
    Four Pictoral Tables of Various Things - Kuyan J
    PDF version
    .numbers version
    Here's an effort to categorise the specific pages that we see particular milestones happen for all of the characters. Good for getting an overview of the patterns in Homestuck. Caution, these are large files!

    Circuitous Routes through Paradox Space
    Lil Cal
    Liv Tyler/Terry Kiser
    Certain toys in Homestuck have changed hands so many times - even across universes. These charts map where they've been.

    I'll add more to this thread in time, and mainly it's a place for both me and you guys to keep track of what I've done, if you find it helpful. Any corrections or suggestions are welcome.
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    Maybe for the next version of the relationships grid (if and when that ever happens), you could make the text the colour of the character in the vertical column, or even make the cell that colour? It's kind of awkward having to scroll up/left to see who you're reading about, and it'd be easier to read if you knew which row and column you're on at all times...

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    These are fantastic. You do a good job of keeping things clean and simple... as simple as Homestuck can get, anyway.

    Are you taking additions? I have an HSV hemospectrum I charted and haven't been able to use anywhere.

    Anyway, thanks very much for these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Seraph View Post
    Maybe for the next version of the relationships grid (if and when that ever happens), you could make the text the colour of the character in the vertical column, or even make the cell that colour? It's kind of awkward having to scroll up/left to see who you're reading about, and it'd be easier to read if you knew which row and column you're on at all times...

    Sorry.
    Hmm, it looks like the chart I linked isn't the one I had that was most up-to-date before this; that had coloured borders for each tile indicating whose row and column it is.


    Quote Originally Posted by mc1121090 View Post
    These are fantastic. You do a good job of keeping things clean and simple... as simple as Homestuck can get, anyway.

    Are you taking additions? I have an HSV hemospectrum I charted and haven't been able to use anywhere.

    Anyway, thanks very much for these.
    What's HSV? I welcome any additions charting canon Homestuck, but if it's a fan thing I don't really want it in the thread.

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    Re: Tenebrais' Repository of Charts and Graphs

    These resources are fantastic. Thank you so much.

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    Pretty amazing resources, thanks for putting the effort into creating them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebrais View Post
    What's HSV? I welcome any additions charting canon Homestuck, but if it's a fan thing I don't really want it in the thread.
    Hue/saturation/value. It's an alternative way of specifying colors, with the caveat that it technically describes a slightly different color space from RGB, and conversion between the two is not entirely precise.

    By the way, those circuitous route maps are still around, and of course you can add them here if you like. They're based on your versions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malleus Inferni View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebrais View Post
    What's HSV? I welcome any additions charting canon Homestuck, but if it's a fan thing I don't really want it in the thread.
    Hue/saturation/value. It's an alternative way of specifying colors, with the caveat that it technically describes a slightly different color space from RGB, and conversion between the two is not entirely precise.

    By the way, those circuitous route maps are still around, and of course you can add them here if you like. They're based on your versions.
    In that case, HSV values would be a pretty useful resource! Feel free to post them. If you have links to the cal/bunny route maps please post those too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebrais View Post
    In that case, HSV values would be a pretty useful resource! Feel free to post them. If you have links to the cal/bunny route maps please post those too.
    Ah, the HSV charts aren't mine. I just happened to know the term. Anyway, the timeline charts are here and here.

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    Re: Tenebrais' Repository of Charts and Graphs

    A lot of people seem confused by how the players/trolls going back through the portals worked, so here's a rough image.


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    Here's a WIP updated relationship chart.

    http://imageftw.com/uploads/20111117...20Grid%204.png

    It's in progress because we don't really know anything about Lalonde and Strider yet. Other than those, any suggestions/corrections are welcome.
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    This is a diagram of the Furthest Ring as we know it, not including dream bubbles.


    Note we don't actually know anything about the nature of 'some session'. It could be the the green session, it could be the session UU is from, it could be neither, could even be both. We just don't know. We may even never find out!
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    The thing with Sollux being a half-ghost is kind of difficult to understand so this is a chart tracking how I understand souls to work with dreamselves, god-tiers etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebrais View Post
    The thing with Sollux being a half-ghost is kind of difficult to understand so this is a chart tracking how I understand souls to work with dreamselves, god-tiers etc.

    Buuuuuut.... doesn't that mean Sollux should be completely dead? Also, Sollux was only KO'd (and blinded) by Eridan, he wasn't killed. Also, this indicates that the Sollux hanging out with Aradia would not have the memories of the Sollux who died on the meteor, which is possible I guess?? But I don't see any reason why that would be the case.

    Was it stated or indicated anywhere that Sollux's soul sort of split in two when Eridan blinded him? Because that's what your chart suggests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AchillesAndTortoise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebrais View Post
    The thing with Sollux being a half-ghost is kind of difficult to understand so this is a chart tracking how I understand souls to work with dreamselves, god-tiers etc.

    Buuuuuut.... doesn't that mean Sollux should be completely dead? Also, Sollux was only KO'd (and blinded) by Eridan, he wasn't killed. Also, this indicates that the Sollux hanging out with Aradia would not have the memories of the Sollux who died on the meteor, which is possible I guess?? But I don't see any reason why that would be the case.

    Was it stated or indicated anywhere that Sollux's soul sort of split in two when Eridan blinded him? Because that's what your chart suggests.
    Sollux is completely dead - there is no conscious part of him that isn't now in the afterlife. In fact he might just have only one conscious part at all now.

    Sollux dropped his bifurcation gimmick after Eridan shot him, so I took that to mean that his soul was split at that point when his half-ghost turned up with Aradia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebrais View Post


    Sollux is completely dead - there is no conscious part of him that isn't now in the afterlife. In fact he might just have only one conscious part at all now.

    Sollux dropped his bifurcation gimmick after Eridan shot him, so I took that to mean that his soul was split at that point when his half-ghost turned up with Aradia.
    But then in what sense is he a half ghost if he is completely dead? Additionally, he can leave the dream bubbles, which constitute the afterlife, so there is a part of him that isn't now in the afterlife.

    This soul-splitting thing seems to be largely speculation to me. The stated reason for him dropping his bifurcation gimmick is that he became blind, probably because his gimmick was due to his two differently coloured eyes. He used the 0's because he was doomed, and when he became a half-ghost he started using half 0's because the alive half of him is still doomed.

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    First update after Christmas!

    I've updated the Timeline, the Death Toll and the Relationship grid to reflect what's happened in the comic since the intermission.

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    I updated both the Timeline and the text colour list to be up-to-date as of A6I2. Please let me know if there are any errors.

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    I've updated the timeline again. I'm also working on an update to the relationship chart. I will be splitting it in two, as between UU, uu, Meenah and Aranea there are altogether too many notable characters with too little co-interaction for one chart. One will have the Alpha teens + Autoresponder + UU and uu + Aranea; the other will have all the older characters + Aranea and Meenah + WV and Davesprite.

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    I'm currently working on a Spreadsheet Template for a Shipping Chart. I also have a Classpect to Player chart (in Spreadsheet form). it was originally designed by another user to represent passive active classes and class opposites, the problem is with UU's newest info is that part doesn't work anymore, but the connections between Class-Player-Aspect still works. I'll upload them soonish.
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    I've updated the relationships chart!

    With all the characters we have now, I ended up splitting it into two.
    Alpha Session
    Beta Session
    The Alpha session had the four alpha kids, UU, uu, AR, Aranea and Meenah.
    The Beta session has the four beta kids, the surviving trolls, WV, Davesprite, Aranea and Meenah.


    PR, if you've got those charts uploaded I'd love to have them.

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    I've updated the Timeline.

    I also updated the Death Toll and included an animated version that shows who was responsible for each death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebrais View Post
    I've updated the Timeline.

    I also updated the Death Toll and included an animated version that shows who was responsible for each death.
    The fourth death looks to be Nanna(sprite) killed by Jack? When did this happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost of Starscream View Post
    The fourth death looks to be Nanna(sprite) killed by Jack? When did this happen?
    I'm guessing because Jack caused the Reckoning which sent the meteor that killed Nanna before she was a sprite???
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