And that's why I don't manip a lot. So I'll just host! Hey there, this is thread number 12 of Image Manipulation. Did you start with one image and finish with another? Is it MSPA related? Then it can belong here! Of course, Image Manipulation of a less than MSPA related nature still has a place in the General Image Manipulation thread.
However, we know that not everyone gets along. If you have issues, follow this helpful advice:
and visit the Argument Thread.
Prepare for the jimmying of resources from the previous thread!
Q: Does my manip belong in this thread? A:
NS;DL (No Speakers; Didn't Listen):
Basically, if you take a preexisting image and alter it in some way, and either the original, the result, or both are in some way MSPA related, it belongs here.
Q: What about my fantroll or other fan character? A: While a sprite of a fan character is technically a manip, you're better off posting it in either the Trollslum or Chumroll thread.
Q: Am I doing this right? A: There is no wrong way to manip an image.
(Well, unless of course it's against forum rules, but that's a given.)
Q: What is all this nomination stuff I keep hearing about? A: If a manip is nominated four times, it is put in the Best of Thread. Please refer to that post for details.
Q: I want a better image editor than MS Paint, but I don't want to have to pay for Photoshop. What are some good free image editing programs? A: I would suggest Gimp; the UI isn't the most user friendly, but once you get things figured out, it's probable the most capable free editor out there. Paint.net is also popular and is more user friendly, but can't handle gifs.
Q: What are people talking about when they say they make images in Bondage? A: It's a little in joke from a couple threads back; they're talking about Gimp.
Q: When I saved my image, the quality diminished in a way worthy of Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff, what happened? A: It's called Jpeg compression, and happens when you save an image as a .jpg file. Save your image as a .png or .gif instead.
Q: I'm working with gifs and the colors are acting strange, what's going on? A: Gif images save colors in "Indexed" format, which prevents you from adding colors that aren't already in the picture when editing. Your editor should have a way to change the color settings to RGB (in Gimp go to Image->Mode->RGB); do this and your troubles will likely be gone. If you're using MS Paint, you'll have to copy and paste the picture into a new image.
Q: Why is my image not showing up? A: Did you make sure to use the direct link? If the url you are using doesn't end in the file's extension (.png, .gif, or .jpg), you are probably using the url for the hosting site's page for the image and not the image itself. If you can't find where your hosting site has the direct link, you can always right click the image, select properties, and find the value for the "address."
Manip Thread Archives:
Want to be able to see all the past manips in one convenient location without have to trudge through all that text and all those spoilers? Well now you can, and in two convenient flavors! Well, once they're finished, that is.
Demon Mobster English: Final Battle - The alpha kids, on the Prospitan ship, face off against DME, involving many power ups manipped from Problem Sleuth superbly. A Sprited Karkat - Karkat combined with Crabdad the sprite. This post also includes several John sprite [ASSET]s in links. Banners and an Old Friend - A banner for this thread with the Condesce, based on a different Betty Crocker themed Img Manip 12, plus a cleaned up version of the Sugar Krinkles clown. Kringle Scratch - The previous post's Krinkleface was put onto Doc Scratch's head. Hilarity ensued. WV: Help Jack - A repost from thread 11, WV has gotten the ring from PM and is ready to assist. Manipulated from the prototyped PM image. Ace Dirk - Ace Dick is looking a little more ironic in this edit of his sprite to look like Dirk. Also includes reposts of Calplacency of the Learned (Cal instead of Calmasis) and Rainbow Dirk (Dirk manipped to look like Rainbow Dash) from thread 11.
A Boring Game - A combination of a Skaia-esque Minecraft still and the Sburb interface. The adventurer is seemingly preparing to deploy an Alchemiter. LARDIS - psychedoutTheoretical suggested this image be known as the Lazyness and Retroactive Dickness In Sleuthing. Ace Dick running through a time stream. CD's Best of Thread - A manip of the BoT ribbon from Thread 11 to have Clubs Deuce as the main image. Coloured black. Dirk and Eq - A slightly suspect edited base (base here) to have Dirk standing over Equius. Good Dog, Best of Thread - A Bec version of the BoT ribbon. Green. Minecraft Map Pack Assets Cont - More Image Manipulation relevant Minecraft assets.
Invisible Network of Trolls - Almost as lame an acronym as OWCA (Organisation Without a Cool Acronym), it's a manip of a character from I.N.K. that looks like Terezi. John Egbert v The World - No, it's not a legal trial, it's the Scott Pilgrim movie posted manipped (in a Dave/Terezi style) to be Homestuck characters. Authority Redsprite - AR as a sprite guide. Jack: Collect Spoils - A continuation of the scene where Jack kills Dave - he collects the spoils of his kill in the form of gushers and blood drops. Poppopsprite - Poppop if he were a sprite in a similar fashion to Nannasprite. Troll Jade: Spring Into Action - And by action I mean Karkat's thoughts, obviously. Karkat dreams of a badass Troll Jade kicking something. Nepatton - Parody of Patton with Nepeta's head.
Nepeta Eighty-Four - A Big Brother poster from 1984 manipped to have Nepeta's hat and '3' mouth. Nepetaspers - Jaspers is looking decidedly like Nepeta in this manipulation. Eyebrow raising and lowering version under spoiler. Bases. Bases Everywhere. - A great number of templates, including baby Dave, Kanaya masking the computer, formed into one image. I Am Unsure How To Feel - Eyebrow manipulations of Roxy, her shirt cat, and Frigglish. Other versions: xx, plus a role reversal done here. Fixed by OrangeAipom in the next post. An Alpha Rose By The Same Name - Manipulation of Mom's sprite to look like Rose as a hypothetical adult version for the alpha session. Owlternia - Manipulation of images of owls to look like trolls. Hilarious results about. Dave Gets I.N.K.ed - Another INK character to Homestuck character transformation, decidedly less Terezi in nature; Vin has been turned into Dave, forming 'Davin'. Or something.
Workin' At the Carwash - Dad's car is washed by a number of less than reputable figures, included a female Ace Dick, two whores from Problem Sleuth's Whore Island and a March Eridan. Dad is alert; John, confused. When The Pimp's in the Recooperacoon, Lusus - Manipulations of two panels to be more 'pimp' (through way of decidedly pink clothing): Karkat hugging Gamzee and Vriska kissing Tavros. Refreshing Sfurban Koolaid - Koolaid man bursts through the wall of a forum adventure's unsuspecting character. Forum adventure it is from linked in post. [TEMPLATES] Roxy and the Cat - Two templates in this post: What are you throwing into the window, Roxy? and Where are you falling, Mutini, from the panel of Roxy smashing Mutini into the fenestrated window. Petswap: Roxy Takes A Trip - Roxy and the cat she throws through the fenestrated wall have a strange switching effect occur to them, likely due to paradox space's whims. The cat, now large, throws tiny Roxy in the blue block into the wall instead.
You Gottle A Bottel - Manip of the "What are you throwing into the window, Roxy" sprite to have a green shirt. Roxy holds a bottel bottle* of milk that she got from a chest. Background is from Legend of Zelda. Bady Dave Into The Void - Roxy throwing Baby Dave into the window, using the template. Paradox In More Ways Than One - Roxy throwing her own baby into the window, using the template. Also includes a larger version of the March Eridan sprite used in the Workin' At the Carwash manip on page 6. It's extended to have all the alphas holding their baby equivalents. Begin Testing - Roxy manipped to have the generic Aperture Science orange jumpsuit. Oh Expoltible Exploitable* - A Roxy exploitable from the falling through windows panel of Homestuck, where she has both arms and one leg raised, as if she were a ninja. Used to effect here to have Roxy behind Vriska's DOOF slide after being punched by Kanaya, implying she was the cause of attack. Petswap: God Crocker and gGCAT - A swap of Jane and GCat, having GCat being humanised and sitting in the chair, with Jane as a cat on the arm of the chair. All Of The Irons! - No, Vriska isn't removing kinks from clothes, she's been placed into the ever popular 'ALL THE ____' meme, from Hyperbole and a Half. Here, she has 'ALL THE IRONS'. Summon the Summoner - Hypothetical Prescratch sprite for the Summoner. Redglare Sprite 1 a little farther down the page. Portal Void Hopping - A manipulation of the Roxy falling between two fenestrated windows to reference Portal. Includes a Wheatley in the plush pile, along with blue and orange outlines, the orange jumpsuit and a portal gun on Roxy's arm. Credit given in post.
Last edited by VeritasUnae; 02-14-2012 at 09:11 PM.
First and most obviously, you need a sprite. You may or may not want to remove certain facial features.
If you're wondering, Doc Scratch's colors are white, #BDBDBD, #08FF4A, and #19A519, though you'll probably end up adding different shades of gray. Becquerel is just white with a black outline.
Make sure to leave lots of space around the sprite.
Make a copy of frame 1 and fill it completely with black. Add yellow lightning around the edges. It's much easier and will probably look better if you copy the lightning from frame 2 of the Doc Scratch sprite linked above rather than drawing it yourself.
More lightning, in the same spots as the lightning in the previous frame. This time use the normal sprite you made in frame 1 rather than the black one from frame 2.
More lightning effect, using the normal sprite.
The exact same thing as frame 1.
Make a copy of the main sprite, scale to 105%, and fill with white. As with all image manipulations, it helps if there is no anti-aliasing.
In-comic, this is a transparent (I haven't bothered to figure out the opacity) version of Frame 6 on top of a black sprite. However, if you want to save headaches, it's usually better to do it a different way. Create a copy of the original sprite and fill with #292929. Now select the pixels in frame 7 and remove from the selection all the pixels in frame 6. Fill the selection with black. This normally will only affect a few pixels around the edges of the sprite.
Or if you aren't obsessive about this you can just fill the sprite with #292929 and be done with it. But if you're like me, and you probably are, you have to do it perfectly.
This is where the hard part starts. Make another copy of the original sprite, scale to 108%, and again it helps a lot if there is no anti-aliasing.
Now you're going to need to find a flicker effect. This is often extremely annoying! It's pretty hard to piece together the actual effect, and even harder if you're not using a smaller sprite like Doc Snout. I personally use the one here.
Use the sprite you just scaled up to make a cutout of the first frame of this animation.
Create yet another copy of the first layer, scale to 105%. Use this to cut out frame 2 of the flicker animation.
New copy don't scale frame 3 cutout.
Keep doing what you've been doing.
Do the same thing again, except this time set the opacity to 67%. Create another copy of the original sprite underneath.
Do the flicker effect one last time, this time set the opacity to 33%. Create a copy of the original sprite like you did in Frame 13.
Now crop the image, and make sure you didn't cut off anything or you'll have to do all that over again.
Set the delay for all frames to .05 seconds, except for frames 1 and 5. These can have any delay you want. For reference, Doc Scratch's introduction panel uses 1 second for both, Doc Snout uses 2 seconds for both, and the wiki uses 3.5 and 4.5 seconds.
And you're done! Yay.
Alternate Tutorial by Arcana:
Gimp Tutorial by Strokend:
The first thing you need is the image you want to scratchify. It helps to either give it a solid-colored background, or to remove a background. Right click the image, go to IMAGE, then MODE, then click RGB so that you can use all colors available.
The second thing you need is the green lightning, or whatever else you're using to make your flashy effect. I have it ripped and stored at http://i52.tinypic.com/4l1xtu.gif for your convenience.
Now, make sure your picture has enough empty space to support the growth that will be applied to three of the frames--if you aren't sure if it's big enough, make it bigger just in case. You can do this by right clicking the image, going down to IMAGE, and then clicking canvas size. The layers will not change along with it, so make sure you right click the layer and then click "Layer to image size". This will leave some blank space that may be a different color than the background you want--if it does, just use the eyedropper (on the left) to pick up the background color, and the paint bucket (also on the left) to fill it in. Something to keep in mind is that if your image has a side (top and bottom included) cut off, you DON'T want to leave blank space beyond that side. Also keep in mind that this ruins it if the image is cut off on two opposite sides--try to find one that at most has a corner cut off (ie. left and bottom).
The next step is to duplicate the layer until it says "Copy #12". Since the first two layers don't have those numbers, #12 is actually frame 14, which is what you need (unless you're already a pro at scratching and enjoy making longer flashy fazes). To help, you can go through the frames and rename them Frame 1-14; this will especially help on frames I'll be telling you to jump to in this tutorial.
Once you're ready to start editing the layers, you can follow the tutorials that guide you frame by frame or use my 'shortcuts.' Since you're reading this, I guess you want the shortcuts.
Turn off view (they eyeball on the right window) for all layers. It's not necessary, but it REALLY helps you out here. A quick way to turn them all off is to click the top or bottom layer, hit left a few times, then hit space-down-space-down (replace down with up if you clicked the bottom layer) until you hide them all.
Turn frame six on, then right-click on it on the right window. Click on "Scale Layer." Make sure the chain is connected--if it's severed, click it to connect it. Next, look at the dropdown box. By default it's probably "Pixels." Change it to "Percent." Change the width to 105 and then click on the height box. You may get a funky value just a little bit above or below 105--don't worry. It's just fine. Click on "Scale" and then center the layer (use the move tool on it--you can also select the image window once you select the move tool and then use the arrow keys to move it pixel by pixel. This is useful for counting how far it is from side to side and top to bottom, so that you can center it if it isn't centered by default).
When centering images with sides cut off, keep in mind that for those sides, being 'centered' means being against the canvas edge. For example, if the bottom is cut off, move it up until the bottom aligns with the bottom of the area where you can actually see the layer at (since below there it turns invisible). You may need to zoom in to get it pixel perfect. "Corner Cut" images are actually easiest here--no counting, just side matching.
Turn frame 6 invisible (if you're following my advice on this, always turn inactive layers invisible unless I say otherwise), then turn frame 8 visible (again, active layers become visible unless otherwise stated). Do the same thing you did with frame 6, only this time set the percent to 108 instead of 105.
Repeat with frame 9 at 105%.
If you want, you can add a tiny suffix to layers 6, 8, and 9--"Frame 6-105" "Frame 8-108" and "Frame 9-105" for example. This helps you recognize layers that you need to ignore on the next step.
Go to frame 2 (visibility rules apply here so you can see it) and use the COLOR SELECT TOOL on the left window (it's a hand pointing at either a red square or green square on a square tower of green, red, blue from bottom to top) on the background (even if the background is transparancy). Set your foreground color to black if it isn't already--you can do so by clicking on it and moving the sliders around, or by clicking the tiny black and white squares right next to the bigger color squares. Right click the image, go to select, and then INVERT. This will make you select everything BUT the background. Click the pencil icon (or hit N), set the 'brush' to Circle 19, and scale to 10. This helps you color it in REALLY fast--just color the whole thing. Since you only selected the thing you're scratchefying, nothing else gets colored
Keeping that area selected, 'activate' frame 8. Now, switch over to your GREEN LIGHTNING (you should have both pictures opened). Select all (CTRL+A), then click on frame 3 of it. Copy it (CTRL+C) Go back to your scratching image, and click on the upper left brush tool in the bottom of the right window. It'll be the green lightning. Set your pencil scale to 1 and see if the rectangle covers the whole of your scratch item (NOT the background, just the image). If it doesn't try scale of 2--and keep upping it by one until it's big enough. You SHOULD be able to make it big enough, otherwise your image is too big.
Once you make it big enough, activate layer 10 (yes, without having put lightning on layer , find a 'center point' (ie. the tip of something like a fang or tie) where you will click for each lightning application. (Note: if you don't actually click on frame 10 in the right window, you'll draw on whichever layer is selected. Make sure you don't do that. If you DO, though, you can simply undo it, fortunately)
Activate layer 11, COPY green lightning's layer 4, click on the center point on the scratch picture.
Activate layer 12, copy green lightning's layer 1 ("background"), click the center point of the scratch picture.
Activate layer 13, copy green lightning's layer 2. Set pencil opacity to 67, click on the center point of the scratch picture.
Activate layer 14, copy green lightning's layer 3. Set pencil opacity to 33, click on center point of the picture.
Activate layer 8. COLOR SELECT the background, invert selection. Copy green lightning's layer 1, set opacity to 100. Click scratch picture's center point. It wont be the same pixel as the other layers, but that doesn't matter.
Activate layer 9. Color select the background, invert selection. Copy green lightning's layer 2, click scratch picture's center point. Again, different pixel, but that's okay.
Activate layer 6. Do NOT deselect, or you'll have to reselect it--since it's the exact same area. Switch to Circle 19 and scale 10 again, set color to white. Color the whole selection.
Activate layer 7, color select background, invert select. Set color hex-value to "292929". Color selection. Activate layer 6, use magic wand (or color select if needed) and CONTROL+click the white. Activate layer 7 again and color the selection black.
Activate layer 2, set brush to Circle 3, set scale to 75, and edit the color. Increase RED and GREEN scales to max, and lower BLUE to minimum. This gives you yellow for the lightning--just draw it in place around the edges where you think it'd look neat.
Click layer 3 but do NOT make it visible--you should be seeing layer 2 still. Try drawing over the lightning, perhaps off of it a little, and bigger.
Activate layer 3 and click on layer 4. Draw 'broken' bits of lightning where layer 3's lightning is (this is why you're viewing layer 3 and not 4). If you think you messed up on either of these steps, you can simply undo--GIMP supports a lot of undos.
Right click, go to IMAGE, MODE, then INDEXED. 255 colors should be more than enough. SAVE AS, change the name if you want, but make the extension .gif if it isn't already. Even if it was already a .gif and had the name you still want it to have, you still need to SAVE AS for the next few steps.
If it asks you to crop layers, agree. Save as animation. When you reach a screen where you can add a comment, go to where it says how many milliseconds to show each frame and change that to 50. Also, where it says "Frame Disposal where Unspecified," set it to "One frame per layer (replace)".
CLOSE the image, then open it back up. This renames all the frames so that they're numbered, show how long they last, AND so that they replace the previous frame. Go to Frame 1 and change it to something like 1500ms (1.5 seconds), then Frame 5 to something like 1000ms (1 second). That's it!
Gimp Video Tutarial by Underlyingaugment:
Last edited by VeritasUnae; 02-01-2012 at 10:44 AM.
This is where all the best manips in the thread are placed. To get in, a manip must obtain four nominations following these rules:
1) Anyone can nominate any manip that they themselves did not make (or, in the case of a colaboration of some sort, that they contributed to less than 1/4 of the manipulating).
2) Any valid image manipulation (see FAQ above) can be nominated whether it has been posted on this thread or not (so long as is not already in a previous best of thread), however re-posting something from a long time ago solely to gather more nominations is discouraged.
3) One cannot nominate more than once per page (≈25 posts).
4) You must provide a reason with your nomination as to why you think this manip deserves to be here.
(Reasons such as "I love it" or "because of what he said" will not be accepted; note that you can have the same or similar reason to someone else, just don't blatantly say "what he said," copy and paste, or something similarly lazy)
5) In the case of nominations getting out of control, I reserve the right to change these rules.
If a manip gets four nominations, there's no need to collect them all and quote them in one post, but it certainly doesn't hurt to do so, and significantly assists me in gathering these manipulations.
Remember, there are a lot of good manips, but not all of them belong in this post, only nominate those which you believe to be significantly high quality.
Originally Posted by Ripcord
Mobster English's ship, the CAIRO OVERCOAT, gold thorn of the skies.
It's DME's third and final face. He is more fearsome than ever, with THREE HEALTH METERS, and a deadly BLACK HOLE VERSION OF HIS SMUG CUEBALL SELF pulsing on top of his PIMP HAT.
>RL and JC: SERAPHIMIC DYNAMESIS
Due to principles of uncertainty regarding the existence of angels in paradox space, there can only be one at a time. Roxy and Jane combine into a DEMIMONDE SEMIGOBBOSSIS
Righteous fires of badass wipe out the weird green shit. The resplendent light of divine PULCHRIDUDE consumes your spirit. Again.
Jake doesn't get a cool transformation because I couldn't think of one.
Really, I am just utterly astounded by how shitty my IMAGINATION is. If my IMAGINATION was a face I would punch it.
In the face.
Originally Posted by jackelbeaver
Thought it would be really funny if this happened whenever someone died in the comic.
Hey guys, you know how there was that series I was talking about? Well...IT IS NOW READY. Warning: Massive.
>Dirk: Contemplate Alchemical Marvels
Yeah, no, that's not going to happen so easily. You'd need a lot of grist to even come close to pulling such a ridiculous move.
Which means you may need someone else's help with this...ah well, it's not like there's anyone you know with insane quantities of grist lying around and collecting dust.
>And many hours later...
You met someone with insane quantities of grist lying around and collecting dust.
timeusTestified [TT] began pestering turntechGodhead [TG]
TG: oh hey bro
TG: so thats your handle sounds pretty neat
TG: whats up
TT: I know that we just met, but I've found that I need to borrow some of your surplus grist in order to finance an alchemical project of mine. An experiment, if you would, on what happens if you try to make something living with alchemy.
TT: The cost is fuckin' extraordinary, in the way that means HIGH AS FUCK and not the good kind of high.
TG: just HOW HIGH does it even have to BE
TG: no but seriously dude
TG: ive been stuck on a fucking meteor for three years with a myriad of assholes like vantas here so frankly im glad to do whatever for you or even just talk to you
TG: or anyone other than lalonde kanaya or terezi really ive seriously just been avoiding that fucking clown and vantas the whole time
TG: rose lalonde if i needed to specify
TT: You didn't.
TG: really it gets old when its like
TG: hey whats up
TG: oh nothing just seeing how long i can stare at the horrorterrors without losing my grip on my own sanity
TG: that was literally how we spent half of the entire fucking trip
TG: we made it into a fucking game of who could stare at the horrorterrors the longest and it always came down to lalonde and makara for some reason
TG: although im pretty sure he had it in the fucking bag because hes goddamned insane already
TG: so yeah considering i get to chill with my awesome bro again why shouldnt i help you out
TG: obviously i mean that youre my awesome bro here
TT: So you'll spot me some grist?
TG: sure bro why the hell not
TG: how much are we talking here
TT: Well, first of all I want only build grist, the tri-rainbow thing, whatever the hell that's called, and the flashy diamond grist.
TT: Second of all, I want your entire store of those particular materials.
TG: so you want all the grist
TT: All of it, yeah.
TG: alright heres what im gonna do get ready for this
TG: im going to give you all of my grist
TG: but wait theres more
TG: im also giving you permission to take lalondes and the trolls grist as well seriously its not like any of us are using that shit DSFADSA
TG: WHAT ABOUT FOR FUCKING FOOD, YOU LARCENOUS PIECE OF VILE-SMELLING NOOK EXCRETION?!
TT: . . .What.
TG: fuck no augh dammit stop that
TG: DON'T YOU EVEN TRY STEALING OUR SUPPLIES, YOU FUCKING PRICK! try and stop me asshole UNLIKE YOU, THE REST OF US NEED TO EAT IF WE WANT TO LIVE! FUCK YOU FOR EVEN TRYING THIS, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A FUCKING LUXURY!
TT: Get the fuck out of this, it doesn't involve you.
TT: And frankly, there's a surplus of food lying around here, it's not like you need to sit around in your meteor and gripe about your empty stomach all day.
TT: By surplus of food, I mean specifically that there's a lot of fucking pumpkins around here.
TT: I hope you like pumpkin pie a la Jane.
TG: SHUT THE FUCK UP, I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU. wow asshole FUCK YOU AND YOUR WHOLE GODDAMNED EXISTENCE! alright sure ill damn you since you asked so nicely YOU KNOW WHAT THE HELL I MEANT. just give me the fucking shades back and i wont hurt you TRY IT, FUCKASS. alright WAIT FU
TT: Has he decided to shut his trap for the moment?
TG: yeah ive resolved that glaring issue for now so just load up grist torrent and start downloading
TT: Fantastic. I'll get back to you after an eternity has passed, then.
TG: youre talking to the knight of time remember
TG: all it takes is a snap of these godly fingers here and bitch youll be rolling in so much motherfucking grist that youll be left with a ludicrous amount of grist after you use up that ludicrous amount of grist
TG: were talking ultimate alchemy levels of grist here
TG: enough left over that even after you make whatever ridiculous shit youre trying to make therell still be enough to make not one but two giant universe frogs with what im so graciously handing over to you free of charge here
TT: Yes. I get it. It's a lot of grist. Now would you kindly get the fuck on with it?
TG: right sorry just making sure youre getting all of this
TG: i dont know about you but ive got all the time in the world right here
TG: wow that was terrible
TG: anyway here you go UUUUUUUCK YOU!!! yeah im going to go deal with vantas now see ya later
TT: Oh, and by the way, you should know that Dirk is extremely grateful that you've done this for him right now and is currently unironically fangirling the fuck out.
TT: You don't want to know.
The pumpkin exists. It always existed, and there was never any doubt it existed.
You eat the pumpkin.
Originally Posted by Andrew Hussie on God Tiering:
This is by having a waking self and a dream self, both alive. When the waking self dies on the quest bed located somewhere on the planet, the player’s dream self takes over permanently, assumes god tier status, and wakes up on the battlefield, while the waking self’s corpse lies dead on the quest bed thereafter. This is how John reached god tier, and how Jade did as well. (Sort of.)
Dave and Rose only had one life left. They’d both been killed by Jack, and then revived as their dream selves. They only had the other means of reaching god tier, which we knew little about. We only had Aradia’s example to speculate from.
It turns out, the other way involves another set of quest beds in the core of the moons of Prospit and Derse. Reaching god tier involves using the only life you have left, and dying on that quest bed. Then, rather than waking up as a god tier on the Battlefield, the dead body simply resurrects automatically, transforming then and there. This is the basic outline of the process, with some caveats from examples we’ve observed.
Now THAT is how you open an image manip thread! Too bad there are four noms already. I would have given it all my noms. ALL OF THEM. Well maybe not because Jake didn't get a transformation. A SEXY transformation. *HINT
Really old manip that I'm fairly sure I never posted, but only for content to this post.
Now the big reason I posted here is because I've updated my John sprite rips, which now includes almost all of his sprites. Everything I could get ahold of at least. If you see a sprite that's missing from the rips go ahead and tell me so I can add 'em.
Posting it again since it's a new thread and no one seemed to catch it up.
Originally Posted by psychedoutTheoretical
WV: Help Jack Noir.
UU: woUld yoU trUst the fate of the Universe, the fate of life
UU: and, for that matter, the fate of reality itself to the single hand of a lowly pawn? :U
GG: Not a pawn. A hero. A vindicator, if you will.