Pokémafia {The Genesect of a new era...}

[ardentApathy]

Popping in again to let everyone know: I have been rereading the thread for the past, like, 5 hours or so, and I'm still only on page 25.

So yeah, I'll address your questions, Palamedes, and hopefully I'll be able to provide SOME useful insight. I am aware I have been less than helpful so far, and for that I apologize.

But DAMN, reading through these threads is a chore.

[Palamedes]

In his last wall he's questioning Town reads but providing no scummy examples of why he thinks they're wrong.

Uh explain. I have talked about EMN for quite some time, I was even voting him for most of yesterday! As for Cat, it's mostly that she's said almost nothing, pretty much posting a couple of words per dayphase so she doesn't get replaced. As for ardent I would quote one of the several lines Solaris brought up about them not really doing anything, and I also brought up how I thought they were suspicious later:

If you stopped jumping around with your opinions on people every other post you make, actually explain why you feel that way, and vote, instead of just waiting for someone else to start it for you!

Also I have to point out - just stating you think someone is town for no given or obvious reason is much worse then questioning why that read is given and that it's weird, whether it be in a suspicious way or a 'am I really just missing something' way.

Vig-Momotoes because I don't want to do that annoying dance of trying to get a lurker to talk for four days, only for them to make a single vague statement of innocence and then be softlynched for little to no reason.

What do you mean by this? Because to be honest it sounds like you're talking about Cat more then momatoes, who was at least a solid contributer for the first three or so days.

Zatch why do you think Surge would be scum, when so far we've only seen Team Eviloftheweek leaders popping up as scum? Feels like a weak attempt to make Daunting look bad from a reasonable soft-claim.

Also Servitor does have kind of a point - and while I do still suspect him of being scum (Inox bussed Visceral if I remember correctly and he hammered Blazer), it's a hell of a lot more of an alabi then I can find for my other major suspicions - primarily a certain Mathgirl.

[MathGirl277]

Popping in again to let everyone know: I have been rereading the thread for the past, like, 5 hours or so, and I'm still only on page 25.

So yeah, I'll address your questions, Palamedes, and hopefully I'll be able to provide SOME useful insight. I am aware I have been less than helpful so far, and for that I apologize.

But DAMN, reading through these threads is a chore.

You are really fast. I'm only on page 15, and have been going at this for a lot more than five hours.

[ardentApathy]

What are your top three scum and town reads, and why?

Ok, rather than just provide a tidy little list, I am gonna infodump y'all with a bunch of posts I picked out during my read-through that seem fishy to me. THEN I'll give you my list. I’ll even put it inside the spoiler, so maybe more people will actually read my reasoning, even though I’m fairly sure we’re past the point where walls o’ text can safely be ignored.

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momatoes

momatoes is pretty close to the top of my "townread" list. Just look at that last post he gave. Can you believe that guy is new? Let's give him a round of applause!

*clap*

I find this HIIIIIIIGH-LY SUSPECT. Seems to me like a bit TOO enthusiastic of a compliment for a scum to give a townie, even a newbie.

Also, doubleposting to the tune of town.

This sounds suspiciously like doublespeak to evade the lie detector to me.

I do agree that Havak looks more suspicious than Ecto :[a Ecto seems like he just had funny-sounding posts or something. Havak still isn't proving himself any townier. I think. Either way, it seems too late to flip the bandwagon around. I hope the Ecto lynch will be useful, at least.

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Yeah, the whole jumping on the bandwagon thing, despite thinking Havak is more suspicious, is quite scummy, as several others noted. Just thought it bared repeating, as we need SOMETHING to go on as far as momatoes is concerned. Still leaning scum for her.

Zatch

I do believe that DD raises a furrow of suspicion in my opinion. If I were to put a label on the thought, it would have the script "Scumhunting too hard." plastered upon it. So, Vote: DD

wut

Seriously, has no one else called Zatch out on this? Pretty sure the most he got was "That's our Zatch!" which seems pretty lame and meta-gamey to me. Then again, it was a Day One vote, so I'll just chalk it up to grasping at straws for now.

I was totally thinking what Solaris said, but then I figured, why would Oz screw himself over just to kill off somebody who would tend to lurk anyway? Lynching WateryHell right now is probably the best course of action with an Oz follow-up lynch target if WateryHell comes up clean.

Him picking Oz as the follow-up rather than BlazerC seems EXTREMELY fishy to me, but then, not having been there as it was playing out, I'm not really fit to judge just how suspicious Oz was compared to BlazerC at that point. Alls I know is, it could easily be seen as a scum move at this point.

anacreon

*pretty much every post by him so far*

Ok, either this guy is a REALLY clueless townie, or scum. I don't think he's provided a SINGLE read, and all of his votes are pretty much bandwagon votes, from what I can tell. He mostly just makes small talk about mechanics, casts minor suspicion on players that were already acting suspicious, and basically posts the bare minimum to seem active without drawing attention (the finals thing is definitely a valid excuse, but I think his prior post history speaks for itself). I'd say he's my biggest scumread at the moment.



Mathgirl

I am town.

All that I can really tell from this claim is that OzTheWizard is almost certainly not coaligned with yd12k. I don't like his claim, but he could be telling the truth, or could be lying.
Okay, so let's see what happens if we lynch Oz.
- Oz tells truth ==> yd12k not bulletproof. Probably scum.
- Oz lying, flips mafia ==> yd12k probably bulletproof.

Now how about lynching yd12k
- yd12k flips BP ==> Oops, we lost our (useless) BP. But hey, we have basically scumfirmed another player.
- yd12k flips maf/not BP ==> I'll trust Oz then, but he won't last the night.

I shall Lynch: youdont12know, because his flip will prove valuable, but his actual role is useless if he turns out to be telling the truth, since he claimed BP, and no one will want to waste a killshot on him.

Ok, a couple things. The most glaring is the way she implies that either one or the other of Oz an yd12k must be scum; seems to me like a scum trying to arrange a town-lynch, but could also be chalked up to flawed assumptions. Second is her "he won't last the night" comment, which seems a bit TOO ominous. After all, he would be the most likely Doc candidate, in that case. Overall, getting a big scum read from this one.

Kieros, how about some votals? I want to know how close WateryHell is to hammer so I could feel not guilty about voting him. Eh, I'll probably vote him anyway, and as a lurker, he should die. But I want him to come in and defend himself.

If PepperYena's unvote was counted, we are at H-2. If not we are freaking at H-1, which really is not where we need to be right now. Since, you know, we have more than four days left for discussion.

H-1 WITH FOUR WHOLE DAYS LEFT!

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I want to jump on that WH wagon so badly, but he has four days to come and explain his lurkeriness and general scumminess. Hammering him is likely something that I would do if he did explain himself and I reject it. He should at least have a chance to talk.

^Ok now THIS seems extremely townish. I suppose she could have just been hesitant to implicate herself in a town hammering, though, but that goes both ways. Still, she could have just as easily not said anything, and let the votes fall where they may. But then, if she WERE scum (argh this is that poisoned wine thing isn't it), then maybe she was privy to BlazerC's gambit, and this was part of the setup? I honestly don't know, but to all those who are pinging scum for Mathgirl, what do you make of this?

(Oh, I should also mention that Mathgirl's softclaim could easily have been a fake claim to get an ACTUAL electric gym leader to claim. If so, she succeeded admirably. But that's just me wearing my tinfoil hat again.)
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Those were the most glaring ones, and I most likely missed many more. And I didn't include my reads from after I joined, although if anyone wants me to justify those, I'll do my best.

Here are my scum reads, as they currently stand:
1. anacreon
2. momatoes
3. Mathgirl
4. Zatch

As for my town reads, they're mostly the same as everybody else, but my top three at the moment are Oz (of course), Daunting, and Fire Goliath (#892 was a BIG town read for me). PepperYena seems very townish to me as well (the fact that I am townfirmed in his eyes MIGHT have something to do with this ). Also, I am now feeling much better about curiousCat being town. ENM is an enigma, as usual, but I see no reason to disbelieve his claim as of yet. Palamedes… dunno, honestly, but him putting me second in his scum reads didn’t do him any favors in my book. Otherwise, he seems fairly pro-town, but with a bit of a tendency to lurk. Could go either way.

Oh yeah, and Solaris, my opinion on you has been pretty much all over the place. Right now I'm inclined to believe you're town, but that veiled threat you gave me is still on the back of my mind. Just putting that out there.

Hm. I guess all that leaves is ascendantServitor and Namboto. aS seems pretty high on a lot of people’s hit lists, but I’m not seeing it, honestly. He really hasn’t done much worthy of a lynch, in my opinion. Not to mention the Day One stuff that a bunch of other people have brought up. Namboto… practically nothing to go on at this point, but he seems to be trying, at least, so that’s something.

DAMN that took a long time. Now, your other questions:

If you were a cop/doctor/vigilante, who would you target tonight and why?

Cop - Mathgirl. With her claim and high level of activity, I think knowing if she's guilty or not would be SUPER helpful.
Doc - Daunting, just because he seems like such a great townie.
Vig - No one, because I'd probably kill a townie, knowing my luck. If I felt like it was my last chance to get a shot off, though, I'd shoot anacreon.

If you had to guess a hypothetical scumteam of two to four people, who would you guess?

My current scumreads (see above).


FINALLY I am done playing catch-up. And I'm pretty sure it's still Thursday in some parts of the world. So HA!

[ardentApathy]

Also, with all that said:

UNVOTE
VOTE TO LYNCH: anacreon

[ardentApathy]

Oh, I should also mention: I will be very busy this weekend, and it's unlikely I'll be able to actively participate, except maybe via Android. We'll see.

[Kíeros]

Deadline is TUESDAY, APRIL 3 GMT.
With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch and 5 to soft lynch

anacreon - 1 {ardentApathy}
ascendantServitor - 1 {OzTheWizard}
MathGirl227 - 1 {Fire Goliath, Palamedes}
Palamedes - 2 {Zatch, curiousCat}

Abstaining - 9 {anacreon, ascendantServitor, Daunting, El Ninja Monkey, MathGirl227, momatoes, Namboto, PepperYena, Solaris}

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ACTIVITY SCORES:
ardentApathy - 370
Palamedea - 344
OzTheWizard - 326
ascendantServitor - 305
Fire Goliath - 284
Zatch - 257
curiousCat - 247
Daunting - 239
El Ninja Monkey - 223
Namboto - 217
Solaris - 210
MathGirl227 - 182
PepperYena - 178
anacreon - 152
momatoes - 0

Thread - 299

[OzTheWizard]

@Palamedes: Yeah, I was talking about you questioning us saying aA is Town. I guess I missed your case on him. Ok, here's a question for you, you keep saying you think aA is Scum, but I don't remember you say anything about hurlingPagan before he replaced in. What was your read on hurlingPagan?

@ardenApathy: I liked the rest of your wall, but I don't really like your anacreon read. At all. Did you actually read his posts? I'm seeing at least 3 that make me think he's Town.

@Solaris: I want your reads too!

@aS: That "Can you guess why?" question in post 1234 wasn't rethorical.

[Palamedes]

ardent didn't replace Pagan? Solaris did.

As for Pagan himself he actually hadn't said anything that I remember, which is different from what ardent has done before that wall post (either 0 content with continued promises for something, or mindless and random suspicion throwing and backing off). As far as Solaris mk. II, he's been much quieter then his previous, town incarnation, but what he did do was pretty much doing the same stuff as he did then.

[ardentApathy]

@ardenApathy: I liked the rest of your wall, but I don't really like your anacreon read. At all. Did you actually read his posts? I'm seeing at least 3 that make me think he's Town.

I did, but overall, he just seemed really scummy to me. Mostly in the way he "contributed" without actually contributing much of anything. Again, to me, seems like he's just putting up the appearance of being active (again, not blaming him for his finals). But if you'd like to point me toward the posts that gave you a town read, I'd be willing to reconsider my vote.

[OzTheWizard]

ardent didn't replace Pagan? Solaris did.

As for Pagan himself he actually hadn't said anything that I remember, which is different from what ardent has done before that wall post (either 0 content with continued promises for something, or mindless and random suspicion throwing and backing off). As far as Solaris mk. II, he's been much quieter then his previous, town incarnation, but what he did do was pretty much doing the same stuff as he did then.

I know, never said he did. It was a trick question, not sure if you passed or if Solaris is your scum pal (I'm assuming there's two members of the mafia left,) since you fail to mention who he's actually replacing (and your read on him too would be nice.)

[Palamedes]

you fail to mention who he's actually replacing

ardent didn't replace Pagan? Solaris did.

???

That's also why I commented on Solaris, and why he's a neutral read in my readwall.

[OzTheWizard]

I mean who arden is actually replacing.

[Palamedes]

Oh I see.

ardent is replacing Kazoo, who to be honest I don't remember much about him. Looking over his few posts, all I notice is him being flip-floppy about you and your claim, particularily when it came to Blazer. He pretty much used the opportunity to try and push you as a lyncher until people started supporting you, then backed right off and attacked Solaris. Which is suspicious as all hell, and only makes me feel worse about ardent. Still not as bad as who I'm voting though, and that wall puts ardent a little bit above Servitor.

[OzTheWizard]

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I am town.

His claim lacks fishy fluff.

Only thing i am getting from ~ATH votes is that Havok is probably town.

He's reading Town on the guy you're replacing (unless you're not Town, that should count for something, especially considering not many of us were reading Town on him at the time.)

disagreeing with momatoes in that there is still actually enough time for the lynch to swing around and hit someone else. The way that was worded about the whole its too late for the wagon to swing around just bugs me so much though.

He's calling out momatoes on the same thing you're quoting. If nothing else, this should convince you they're not scum together.

Oz I hope you arent paranoid but i guess we will find out when wateryhell flips. I do trust you though.
Also The only thing that can be mechanically confirmed from that post is his own alignment claim since the rest is just speculation.

By accepting the possibility of me being paranoid, he appears to not be informed of the "let WH get lynched, then lynch Oz" Blazer gambit.

Ok seriously we hit 4 scum and its only d3. I have no idea what to say bout this other than we are doing really good.

This... this one's actually scummy. But...

Ebwop: nvm 3
Inox
~ATH
Blazer

Gonna take a look at Inox and Blazer see if we cant find another based on their interactions.

Then he gets the number of dead mafiosos wrong (he forgot about Mr. Visceral.) That's not something I'd expect from one of them (you could argue that this is a fake town slip, but it does't look fake to me.) It does speak of him not paying attention though.

Ebwop: We still havnt hit the silencer if such a thing exists in this game so some one may have been silenced.

And he's still asking about the Silencer thing; mafiosos shouldn't be talking about it after Blazer got lynched. Now we can conclude that the silencing was fake since noone else has claimed to have been silenced. Bringing it up knowing it's fake is not something I'd expect from a member of the Mafia.

[OzTheWizard]

@Pala: Really? You said you thought he was Scummy D1.

[Palamedes]

It's been a long time since D1, and I only skimmed the posts in the 'search posts' bar so I may have forgotten something there. It could also be because I find Kazoo scummy in virtually every game I've played with him.

That being said, looking over those D1 posts his pressure on Servitor was kind of crappy, but actually makes him look slightly less suspicious then it did in retrospect, since unless we have a QUOTEFIA situation where a ton of scum piled on one guy Kazooscum actually seems less likely, especially if Servitor flips mafia. Then, I notice tilde attacking Kazoo too and defending Servitor out of nowhere and foundering when he was pressured over it (then he got killed in the night and was scum).

Which, all in all, makes ardent look like a much worse lynch then I previously thought. Gotta move him up to neutral.

[MathGirl277]

ARGH I GIVE UP READING THIS WHOLE THING!!!
I was on page 27 by the time I just stopped doing this whole stream-of-conciousness thing.
Page 27 was enough to make ascendantServitor stand out as the person who most broke my scumdar. Given that that is what scum want to do, I would be fine with Lynching ascendantServitor

Huuuge Stream of conciousnesspost, ad it is only half of the thread. I may or may not finish conciousness-streaming later. It covers all of D1 and a little bit of D2.

Firstly, looking at what our wonderful moderator has done in terms of updating the OP (I can’t thank you enough for that), I would like to point out that we have a LOT of nilla townies. The only power roles that have been hit are the masons and roleblocker (and miller, but that isn't very helpful). It’s kind of sad that our roleblocker is dead, but we did a pretty good job of keeping the power roles out of trouble.

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Post 234: youdont12know who claims bulletproof.
Post 443: PepperYena is not a vanilla.
Post 517: seastormjt claims town. It doesn’t get more general than that, folks.
Post 601: Oz claims lie detector.
603: Havak: town
604: aS: vanilla
605: sea: town, again.
606: yd12k: town/powerless pokeball. Not a single lie in this post.
610: pepperYena: Frontier Brain Town.
612: D town
614: Red: Town
618: imperviousScofflaw: town
630: Solly1: Town
640: Anacreon: town

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YD12K: Although I now know it to be false, I believed yd12k’s claim of bp initially. Especially since no one cced him. So I guess we probably still have a bulletproof alive somewhere?
PepperYena: I’m getting a good vibe from him. I would believe his claim.
Oz: Lie detector, why not? Later found oneshot. I trust him.
Claim train: Likely to believe purely because of in context of post: aS, pepperYena

Stream of Consciousness (Read it at your own risk)

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Day One

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RVS yadda yadda
~ATH Elects himself
Acio looks p towny by refusing the pokeball
Scoffles gets and elect wagon on him
Mister Visceral tries to get us out of RVS by voting MaskedClaus and Electing GX
~ATH is bussing MV and I defend him.
Gene is whining about life. Funnily enough, I think that this makes him towny.
InoxFy tries to elect me
Given how everyone flipped, D1 looks like MathGirl is scum. WHY THE HELL AM I DEFENDING SCUM AND THEY ARE DEFENDING MEEEE?!?!?!
hurlingPagan is as frustrating as ever. Acio promptly jumps on this.
Liking Red’s snarkiness. He later flipped mason, so that is well deserved.
MV’s intereactions with HP are making me nervous about HP.
GX is seriously scumhunting. Oh right I forgot, he was NKed N1. Aww.
Acio reprimands him for doing what I just commended him for.
Hanky Panky’s post 163 looks seriously off to me. Combined with turbolurking, I ain’t likin’ this’un
Now everyone hates on GX for some reason. I did too, seeing as I was generally too lazy to go through the whole thread.
OMG HurlingPagan says something other than fluff!!
Inox’s post 182 makes me reconsider hP being scum. On the other hand, I know bussing is a thing, but I now see this as scum going for an easy lynch.
What ascendantServitor does makes me kind of uncomfortable. Then again it is ~ATH making the case against him.
~ATH goes pretty hard against aS. I don’t think that aS is scum for this reason. ~ATH is going too hard against him.
Both of the HP’s are seriously pissing me off right now.
Scoffles looks p good by trying to get GX to calm down. He is later townfirmed, so ther’s that.
Blazer’s wall on 206 makes me okay with aS scum again, but I really don’t think that he is. I think he is trying to put forth ideas, and everyone is just being mean to him.
aS wagon pops up. Red’s 216 makes a case against him.
Sasalas is very nice to newbs.
Solaris1 freaks out over aggroing newbs. Like wow.
yd12k claims.
Inox gets annoyed at our recently deceased miller.

Admittedly, I was more explicit than I should have been. I random voted red too late and without any reason, but when this was pointed out I changed it, and tried to explain my reasoning.

I really can’t figure out whether or not I think that aS is scum or not. This is really annoying me.
I am really liking Sasalas. And really hating Hanky Panky’s gogdarned lurkiness. Which I only remember when he actually posts.
Bluh bluh huge yd12k electwagon.
Momatoes question in 295 makes me extremely suspect. I’ll probably place my vote here by the end of this wall.
MV and tilde bus each other.
Who are these Alec Trevelyan and Mr. Muitini people?
momatoes looks really scummy in 338. I see that as bussing right there.
I wonder why no one cced yd12k. Do we really not have a bulletproof?
Liking Oz for townplay here. Later confirmed.
People discuss how many maf there are. I think that there are probably 6 total, four of which are dead.
aS posts a bit of fluffly fluff. I don’t like this.
After MV posts a scumwall, aS looks townier. post 377.
I remember legitimately thinking MV was town at this point. Past me, you are a huge idiot.
Everyone discusses lynching Havakazoo. No one actually tries voting Havakazoo.
Zatch votes DD for little reason. Plus scumpoints for Zatcherifficus. I really don’t think that DD was scumhunting very hard, which is the reason he stated in his post.
I would accuse Havak of buddying with Acio, but Acio later flipped town.
Speaking of Acio, he gets replaced by seastormjt.
GAH HURLINGPAGAN I HATE YOUR INANE FLUFF!!
Liking Solaris1 and Scoffles’ interactions. And both of them flipped town.
Okay, Inox is pinging town at this moment (434). Like, I actually agree with his CDV, and he wasn’t reluctant about posting it fast. He wasn’t very specific, but I do this sort of thing with my CDVs all the time.
Oh god my lurker index. I wish I had never come up with that stupid idea when Kieros has these great activity scores. I just want to sort of erase that idea from everyone’s mind. Augh.
Woah, IS is getting a strong townread from momatoes. I don’t get why he says so...
Getting really huge town vibes from PepperYena.
Everyone like momatoes, what did he do that everyone likes him?
Comi and Muiti should die in a fire pit for lurkyness. Which they did. They went to replacement hell.
I remember thinking that Fire Goliath looked really scummy the first time I read post 463, but i like him now. I don’t know why.
I would have though Blazer is town by 466.
Stupid scumdar, why are you so hopelessly broken D1?
Okay now I see why people like momatoes. He may not post very much, but when he does, he posts actual content.
Yadda yadda yadda this is taking too long, I’ll skim more and note less.
What happened to Havakazoo?
Liking ascendantServitor again (481). Gah, why can’t I make up my mind about you. Everyone else looks very firm to me, but you are like a greased pig slipping around from side to side.
Sea scumslips with the whole “6 mafia” thing, except she flipped town.
I remember honestly thinking MV was town when I voted him. I just wanted a lynch.
Post 534 and I liked where my vote was all of a sudden.
Yay deadscum!

Day Two

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Another scum died in the night. At the cost of two vanillas. This is amazing.
I love our vigilante.
I don’t even remember why I didn’t like momatoes earlier. He is pretty helpful when he actually posts.
Wait, wouldn’t it be good if a miller is roleblocked? I mean, it indicates a lack of trust by the roleblocker (seastormjt), but It would still not be bad.
GAH ALL OF THE SCUM ARE BUDDYING WITH ME FOR FLIPPING FLAPJACKS SAKE!!!
DDfluff
everyonefluff
I don’t think that Havak and ecto are coaligned (knowingly). Looks like ecto was a vanilla and Havak is unknown.
Oz claims, then everyone claims.
I don’t know why, and this is irrelevant, but 626 entertains me to no end.
Solaris1 acts like scum in 629.
Everyone debates over yd12k and Oz claims.
On beginning of page 27 here.

[Kíeros]

Deadline is TUESDAY, APRIL 3 GMT.
With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch and 5 to soft lynch

anacreon - 1 {ardentApathy}
ascendantServitor - 2 {OzTheWizard, MathGirl227}
MathGirl227 - 2 {Fire Goliath, Palamedes}
Palamedes - 2 {Zatch, curiousCat}

Abstaining - 8 {anacreon, ascendantServitor, Daunting, El Ninja Monkey, momatoes, Namboto, PepperYena, Solaris}

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ACTIVITY SCORES:
ardentApathy - 376
Palamedes - 373
OzTheWizard - 355
ascendantServitor - 305
MathGirl227 - 294
Fire Goliath - 284
Zatch - 257
curiousCat - 247
Daunting - 239
El Ninja Monkey - 223
Namboto - 217
Solaris - 210
PepperYena - 178
anacreon - 152
momatoes - 0

Thread - 322

[ascendantServitor]

Page 27?
I didn't post on page 27.
Could you elaborate a bit, MathGirl? Not really sure what you mean by "broke your scumdar".

[Zatch]

I'm beginning to think we should just lynch motatoes since we have nothing conclusive other than Mathgirl flipping out on aS? I mean, I see a good attempt in her words, but I don't feel motivated to follow.

Plus, he's had the activity score of zero for like, the past 4 days, either he's forgotten the game entirely or he's scum and hasn't been thrown under the bus or anything by another scum mate due to the fact that they might be the only two left. Not saying I know the amount of scum left, just theory-ing it up.

[Palamedes]

Yet you've been voting me this whole time Zatch. Care to explain?

[El Ninja Monkey]

Plus, he's had the activity score of zero for like, the past 4 days, either he's forgotten the game entirely or he's scum and hasn't been thrown under the bus or anything by another scum mate due to the fact that they might be the only two left. Not saying I know the amount of scum left, just theory-ing it up.

Unessacary clarification. Getting scummy vibes here.

[OzTheWizard]

Yeah, that wall from Mathgirl is kinda bad. All that effort and she's just focusing on aS when it would have been more productive to, you know, look for all the scum left. And while I see what ENM is seeing I think Zatch is actually right in that momatoes should be lynched. Lynch momatoes. Maybe aS is Scum, but even if he is I doubt he's the only one left, so maybe we should go for those who are hiding first. Not to mention so far noone has listed momatoes as Town in their reads.

[Zatch]

Yet you've been voting me this whole time Zatch. Care to explain?

I honestly forgot. I re-read the post that made me think you're scummy but can't find what I found prior. Curse me for not taking notes. I don't have anything on you Pala. You have an air of mystery around you and I can't penetrate it with my mind. So, I probably just jumped to conclusions. I'm still neutral about ya tho'.

Vote: Motatoes