Pokémafia {The Genesect of a new era...}

[Fire Goliath]

EBWOP: Or we could just lynch a convenient lurker again. That works too.

[El Ninja Monkey]

Momantos hasnt posted since 3/22. I don't think s/he is lurking.

[Namboto]

EBWOP: Or we could just lynch a convenient lurker again. That works too.

Really I'd love to go right with you and string up calculusLass, and will be leading that wagon this coming day, but unless people change their votes in the next few hours, it's not likely to happen.

and, as aA somewhat hypocritically pointed out, no-lynches are bad.

[Kíeros]

Nine hours left; no worries.
With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch and 5 to soft lynch

El Ninja Monkey - 1 {anacreon}
MathGirl227 - 1 {Fire Goliath}
Momatoes - 5 {OzTheWizard, Zatch, ascendantServitor, MathGirl227, Namboto}
Palamedes - 1 {curiousCat}
Zatch - 3 {Daunting, Palamedes, ardentApathy}

Abstaining - 4 {El Ninja Monkey, momatoes, PepperYena, Solaris}

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ACTIVITY SCORES:
Palamedes - 423
ardentApathy - 418
Zatch - 407
OzTheWizard - 385
MathGirl227 - 384
ascendantServitor - 368
Namboto - 360
Fire Goliath - 318
Daunting - 308
anacreon - 308
El Ninja Monkey - 304
curiousCat - 278
PepperYena - 236
Solaris - 210
momatoes - 0

Thread - 358

[Namboto]

oh hey, I woke up with two hours left

and nobody else has said anything

welp

[curiousCat]

Vote: momatoes

[MathGirl277]

Am I the only one who thinks that maybe Zatch is telling the truth here?

Cat, I want you to townfirm tomorrow. Because this looks like scumCat to me right now.

[curiousCat]

I don't understand how you don't know my role at this point
Seriously

[MathGirl277]

Wait, what? Oh, whoops.

/facepalm

Oh, so you are Whitney. Okay. Whoops didn't catch that.

[curiousCat]

Not Whitney. And I said role, not flavour.

[Daunting]

Not Whitney. And I said role, not flavour.

...now I feel bad that I've got no idea whatsoever.

Convenient-lurker-lynching bad, people. They're easy for scum to push/jump on, without actually forming opinions or looking very bad post-lynch. Momatoes has been AWOL--hopefully Kieros'll get a replacement; however, if Momatoes takes the lynch and flips town I advise y'all take a rather critical eye to everyone who was for lynching WateryHell and Momatoes. I know I will, at least .

Admittedly -- Momatoes' position on the eB wagon and back when they were around is a bit scummy; it's a more justified lynch IMO than WH was. However--I'd suggest we either wait for a replacement or kindly ask our vigilante to take care of this little issue.

That said, I'm very close to voting cC here--the only thing stopping me is that I think Zatch is mafia, whereas Momatoes is practically null; Zatch is also second-place in the votals so my vote on 'im will hopefully actually accomplish something for us here.

Seriously -- the fact that you've claimed the ability to townfirm yourself practically erases all reasons to not townfirm yourself. I'd ver much appreciate it if you Equius'd.

[Kíeros]

The discussion of who was at blame raged on for what seemed like days without anyone coming to a consensus, when one of the noticed that there was a member in their midsts that had

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Momatoes was Whitney. Despite having the best interests of the town at heart, she was more concerned with just surviving the onslaught of the CCS than defeating them. As such, she was a third-party survivor, and in getting lynched, has lost.

All night actions need to be in by Midnight, April 6th.

[Kíeros]

Another day dawned, and the trainers assembled once again to find one of their own had been killed in the night.

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Fire Goliath was Youngster Joey. As you should all know, his Ratata was in the TOP PERCENTAGE of ALL RATATAS. Of course, since it was a Ratata, he couldn't really do anything, and was thus a vanilla town.

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Deadline is THURSDAY, APRIL 12 GMT.
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. SOFT LYNCH IS NO LONGER A THING.

Abstaining - 13 {anacreon, ardentApathy, ascendantServitor, curiousCat, Daunting, El Ninja Monkey, MathGirl227, Namboto, OzTheWizard, Palamedes, PepperYena, Solaris, Zatch}

[PepperYena]

Okay guys, listen up. I sort of kept silent in the past days because I had no idea what to say. I didn't want to be useless, though, so I'm going to reveal some things today.

I know, for the most part, who the mafia killed in the nights. My information is not exact, but there are some I can 100% confirm.

Night 1: Three died. Alec Trevelyan(Vanilla town), Genetixientist, (Vanilla town), and ~Ath(Vanilla Mafia)
Genetixientist was killed by the mafia.
Alec Trevelyan was killed by something other than the mafia (SK or Vig, for example)
I have NO IDEA how ~ATH died.

Night 2: Two died. Red709(Town Mason) and seastormjt(Town Roleblocker)
Red709 was killed by the mafia.
seastormjt(Acionyx) was killed by something other than the mafia.

Night 3: Two died. InoxFy(Mafia Janitory) and imperviousScofflaw(Town Mason) and DecidedlyDevious disappeared.
InoxFy was killed by something other than the mafia.
imperviousScofflaw was killed by the mafia.
DecidedlyDevious was janitored by InoxFy.

Night 4: One died. Solaris1(Vanilla Town)
Solaris was killed by the Mafia.

Night 5: One died. Youdont12know(Town Miller)
YD12K died by something other than the mafia.
A mafia kill didn't go through this night.

Night 6: One died. Fire Goliath(Vanilla Town)
Fire Goliath was killed by the Mafia.


I heavily suspected Momatoes to be scum due to there being no MAFIA KILL on Night, 5, since Momatoes wasn't even alive at the time, making me think maybe she wasn't able to make a kill while lurking. So I was okay with the lynch, even though I didn't actually participate.


Right now I heavily believe ardentApathy, Daunting, OzTheWizard and Zatch to be town.
I have small townvibes from ascendantServitor due to how scum reacted to him early in the game.
curiousCat, El Ninja Monkey, and Namboto are neutral for me.
Palamedes and Solaris2 just seem to give me a scummy vibe and general bad feeling. Anacreon, too. But Mathrgirl aggro'd on him, and...

Mathgirl is my biggest scum target right now.


Now that I've revealed this information, I want to know Mathgirl's REAL reply to all this stuff against her. I doubt that there are any more than 2 mafia left, so the people coming up with theories against her are very true and slightly damning. I don't have any mechanical evidence against her, but I'm very much inclined to agree about her being the remaining scum member.

[Palamedes]

I AWAKEN.

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Seriously, I've put aside tonight as a non-work night, starting tomorrow I will be back to spending the vast majority of my time writing essays and exams so please bear with me.

Hmm who don't I like?

Let's look at that wagon first.

OzTheWizard, Zatch, ascendantServitor, MathGirl227, Namboto.

Oz is town as all hell, so let's leave him.

Zatch I voted for yesterday. I think he's scum.
aS I also don't like, his vote on momatoes because he 'had to' ruined an action I would have taken as townish because he failed to explain why momatoes was a better target then Zatch or literally anyone else being voted for (come on, 2 votes is only one more then 1). Mathgirl I also want to murder with a passion. Namboto actually looks townish though for making sure the lynch went through. I'm tempted to think that Servitor might be town because my top three scumreads (Well, plus EMN) by a long shot are voting in a row and until now I've had few reasons to believe that the entire scumteam is not hidden in there.

Oh wait right there's Solaris too who I know has been around and should not be so quiet if he doesn't want to be dead.

[Palamedes]

EBWOP: Oh wait right let's go back and Vote: Zatch.

And hey Pepperclaim. I figured you were something like this and this only makes me think there's a good chance you're town. However, I think you might have made a mistake? How the heck did the mafia get two kills night three? With all of the vanillas in this game it seems pretty damn unlikely.

[PepperYena]

Night 3, InoxFy was able to use his janitor power as he died, so he used it on DecidedlyDevious, who was wiped from the game without us learning his role.

InoxFy was mafia himself, and was killed by something other than mafia.

The mafia only made one kill that night: imperviousScofflaw. I can confirm this.


Do not vote Zatch. He had a flavorcop on Fire Goliath saying something about top percentage of Rattatas. BOOM, Fire Goliath was Youngster Joey. WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR HIM?

[Palamedes]

FLAVOURCOPS CAN BE SCUM TOO.

Also, janitor kills usually aren't extra kills, they take over the mafia's regular kill. Even if it did, it seems unlikely that given a largely vanilla game that the mafia would randomly have two kills, and targetted Scofflaw (who wasn't saying all that much at the time if I remember correctly).

Here's another question for you: You have scumreads, why aren't you voting anyone?

[PepperYena]

Well, I guess I tend not to do that. It's just a habit of mine to not vote for anyone, because OH GOD WHAT IF WE SUDDENLY GET HARD LYNCH or something like that.

...Regardless, I agree with 'flavorcops can be scum'. Zatch still seems more town than scum to me, but I'll keep that in mind. For now he'll be delivering us with delicious flavor, as far as I know.


Yeah, I'm going to go back to D4 start and figure out exactly what the heck Inox's role was. Maybe the same thing that killed ~ATH killed Scofflaw, and DD took the janitor-enhanced mafia kill? I must agree, that is a possibility. The one thing I can honestly confirm though, is that Inox died by another non-scum kill.

[MathGirl277]

My REAL reply is that I prolly shouldn't have claimed like that with the lack of serious pressure on me. I wanted something interesting to happen, I guess.

Also, I really think that Zatch is town right now. I do realize that flavorcops can be scum, but it doesn't seem so likely to me in Zatch's case. I don't know why.

I should be freaking out that everyone wants to lynch me, but there is a significant portion of me that is just thinking "Well, if I'm lynched, you guys can see how I interacted with others, even though it doesn't mean much."

Seriously though, I would put myself close to the top of a scumlist. And there isn't anyone I really want dead. Anacreon and Namboto have both been sort of fluffy in my opinion. But not super-duper scummy.

I'm putting forth a vote anyway. Vote: Namboto

[ascendantServitor]

okay first off my access to a computer will be very limited up until tuesday. I may be able to post min that timr but I hate using my phone for that so it wont happen often if at all.

secondly I Voted for momatoes because of the lurking and because there were already votes there.
I dont remember the totals but i think momatoes also had the most or was tied for that.
And he turned out third party so im pretty okay with that decision. zatch wasnt an option because fof the claim which was supported and is now verified, and I am reasonably certain cops are town here given the high percentage of vanilla.

thirdly going to throw out all the reads i have:
Oz Daunting and Zatch are all pretty much verified town here. oz and zatch because of role, daunting because he is most active scumhunter.
cc is up to something and should seriosuly townfirm. if any vigs are left get on that if townfirming is delayed because that probably means it was a bluff.
thats honestly my strongest read right now And rereading the last day is going to have to wait.
one peppers claim indicates something odd about ~aths death that i dont really understand. two the existence of third parties is now confiirmed and there are
at least one more third party. thats a total presumption there but i dont think there was only one third party.
cop abilities seem mostly indirect and unable to differentiate third parties from town. whitney would have read town for me. also if anyone knows ccs role post it asap for clarification.

i apoligize for my lack or reads and my tbad formatting here.

[Zatch]

Really Palamedes? Do you really think Kieros would make a game with a ton of town vanillas and a scum flavor cop?

Inspected Oz, he likes sports and has his shirt off when I find him. My character gets a feeling that he's good but am turned off by his body or something.

Right now, I'm good with either lynching Mathgirl or Palamedes.

[El Ninja Monkey]

Inspected Oz, he likes sports and has his shirt off when I find him. My character gets a feeling that he's good but am turned off by his body or something.

Cilan?


This was the result upon sreaching shirtless Pokemon. Sorry if I scared anyone.

[curiousCat]

Yena, how can you know that stuff for sure?

[Daunting]

Vote: Zatch. The reasons I had fer voting on him yesterday are now joined by his position on the lynch of a neutral 'vivor. Suffice to say, I don't see you as town by virtue of flavorcop-ness.

Interesting, pepperYena. I'm not going to put full stock in your info here--at least 'til I can piece together how you likely discovered it--but pY is pretty high on my not-mafia list. I could see 'em as a third party, conceivably (probably town-neutral or slightly town-friendly, or else ya wouldn't be givin' us info) but not mafia play...

...unless the only reason you know who the mafia killed is because you are mafia!

(but, that seems much less likely to me .)

That said, I am a bit curious as to how you know just who the mafia did and didn't kill.


CuriousCat, please townfirm yourself. Near as I can tell your current reasons against using your professed ability is "if I look really scummy the mafia won't kill me," - however, this has the downside of looking really effing scummy. I'm of the opinion that either you or ENM is mafia, but not both; if you could "narrow this down" fer me that'd be much appreciated.