Video Games You Wish Existed

[Superfrequency]

Seeing a mission I am actually interested now. It seems like Phoenix Wright-style investigating is the focus, and the actiony parts are minimal. Slapping people with a "Take that!", that's what it's all about.

I'm not sure what to make of the whole Bondi ordeal.

[frostedWarlock]

Zack and Wiki 2.

That's pretty much it, Capcom should make Zack and Wiki 2.

[Reecer6]

Crazy Taxi with a better physics engine, a bigger and less linear world, more shortcuts, and without Morgan Freeman wanting to go to the church (I mean I GUESS he was God in the Almighty movies...). And with the same songs of course, legalities be darned.

[Superfrequency]

Zack and Wiki 2.

That's pretty much it, Capcom should make Zack and Wiki 2.

Unfortunately, it sold so poorly that they'd be more likely to make a new Dino Crisis game.

It's very disappointing that selling 129,000 copies of a game is "abysmal". Just 20 years ago that would have been incredible. I think major developers have just failed to appropriately adjust their expectations. Nobody wins. Cute little puzzle games should not be expected to compete with Call Of Duty in the same financial bracket.

[MobileMammal]

Crazy Taxi with a better physics engine, a bigger and less linear world, more shortcuts, and without Morgan Freeman wanting to go to the church (I mean I GUESS he was God in the Almighty movies...). And with the same songs of course, legalities be darned.

I'm sick of driving that old lady Daisy around.

Now it's MY turn to be driven around!

[Draco18s]

Is there anyone who hasn't?

Me.
I don't care all that much.
Though I did have someone point out the SNOUTPAK to me. To which I replied, "about $200 more than I'd spend for one of those."

[chimericWilder]

BLASPHEMER! Hang him!

Actually on topic, i wish there was another game like Skyrim. Because obviously i need more time sinks.

[Draco18s]

Actually on topic, i wish there was another game like Skyrim. Because obviously i need more time sinks.

Try out TerraFirmaCraft for Minecraft. It's...quite a time sink.

[Graknorke]

True Crime:Manchester

Why?
Because Manchester is why. If you want crime in a major city in Yorkshire, that is where you go.

[_Quietus_]

A game
With a working time travel

[Arsenicum]

A game
With a working time travel

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time.
Blinx: The Time Sweeper
Chrono Trigger
Achron
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Ecco The Dolphin
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness
Singularity
Where in Time Is Carmen Sandiego?

Is that good?

[_Quietus_]

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time.
Blinx: The Time Sweeper
Chrono Trigger
Achron
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Ecco The Dolphin
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness
Singularity
Where in Time Is Carmen Sandiego?

Is that good?

No, no not at all
you see in those games, your choices of action are highly scripted
In addition to this, you cannot be affected by choices you make in the past and the future
nor can you come into contact with past and future instances of yourself

[Wiwaxia]

A game
With a working time travel

C°ntinuum.

Oh wait, that's a tabletop game.

this post is in no way part of my nonexistent plan to prove that tabletop games are better than video games

[frostedWarlock]

this post is in no way part of my nonexistent plan to prove that tabletop games are better than video games

That's like comparing caramelized apples and lemon pepper salmon. They are only similar in like the basest of things and trying to prove one is better than the other works purely from a subjective standpoint. Tabletop games don't have a lot of the base elements some people like in video games, like platformers or action RPGs or soundtracks.

Edit: Well okay some tabletop games work like action RPGs instead of regular RPGs but it depends on how you define action RPG. I mean like... Ys. It wouldn't be the same as a tabletop.

So yeah that plan has to be nonexistent otherwise it's gibberish :v

To keep this post relevant to the topic, Mega Man Battle Network but in real life. They tried toys like that, but with 3DS StreetPass and SpotPass, and the application of a sprite editor, it's a very achievable goal. It doesn't even have to be Mega Man just anything that works with the same mechanics as the game's story.

[_Quietus_]

That's like comparing caramelized apples and lemon pepper salmon. They are only similar in like the basest of things and trying to prove one is better than the other works purely from a subjective standpoint. Tabletop games don't have a lot of the base elements some people like in video games, like platformers or action RPGs or soundtracks.

Edit: Well okay some tabletop games work like action RPGs instead of regular RPGs but it depends on how you define action RPG. I mean like... Ys. It wouldn't be the same as a tabletop.

So yeah that plan has to be nonexistent otherwise it's gibberish :v

Shoosh
Shoosh right now, he's got nothing to prove

[Draco18s]

No, no not at all
you see in those games, your choices of action are highly scripted
In addition to this, you cannot be affected by choices you make in the past and the future
nor can you come into contact with past and future instances of yourself

Best I can offer. As the kind of thing you're looking for was a design goal, but the group I was working with ruined it (that link is the demo I built myself before they got their hands on it).
I was taking great care to insure that no matter where the player went in a given time-instance (e.g. "past," "present," "future") that any room farther forward in time was already accessible (or was granted access by traveling forward in time) and that a route to any previous room would exist.
Unfortunately, the final submission did not achieve that design goal (for I was not present during that swfs creation in its entirety, and it used none of my original code, and inside 3 minutes I got stuck in a room with no exit and had witnessed a room where the results of an action I had not yet taken had already happened*).

*Its a little unclear with the one puzzle in the demo, with the generator, but the timeline works like this: in the present (and future) the generator has no gas. So you go to the past and find the fuel can (the generator is full in this time period) and take it to the present and fill the generator. When you go to the future, the generator still has gas, but now a fuse has blown.

[Frost]

you see in those games, your choices of action are highly scripted
In addition to this, you cannot be affected by choices you make in the past and the future

I don't think we can make games that break causality yet, dude. ;)

Sarcasm aside, this is the big glaring problem in what you're asking for, isn't it? A free-form time travel game would boil down to a linear sequence of choices, where your past choices influence what happens later on in the game - that is, it'd be like any other game with a branching plotline. Can't have the player be affected by future "decisions" without forcing his hand later on, thereby stopping them from being decisions at all.

I guess you could fix it by having a mutable timeline? That is, nothing is predestined, and you have the power to change events which you've already experienced (eg, there would be no repercussions for shooting one's own grandfather). Could make for a fascinating, if very difficult, puzzle game.

[Dentrala]

I remember there being a strategy game in the works where your success was built upon you issuing orders throughout the timeline, and the changes would come in waves, or something like that. Did that ever come out?

[Draco18s]

I don't think we can make games that break causality yet, dude.

Achron. They even show off their engine dealing with The Grandfather Paradox.

I remember there being a strategy game in the works where your success was built upon you issuing orders throughout the timeline, and the changes would come in waves, or something like that. Did that ever come out?

Yes, Achron, and it did. It is a highly functional game, though the units all look the same, so it's hard to tell the soldier from the grenadier from the marine (all of whom have different abilities).
And I've heard complaints about the plot (and it doesn't help that the story isn't linear, each campaign gives you only part of the story, then the next campaign goes back and fills in gaps).

On unit diferentiation:
You can tell the difference between a marine and a tank, but you have three different kinds of foot solider, four kinds of ground vehicle, and four aircraft. They look so much a like that you tend to go "air units, attack!" because you don't know which ones you have.

[JordanTH]

Achron. They even show off their engine dealing with The Grandfather Paradox.



Yes, Achron, and it did. It is a highly functional game, though the units all look the same, so it's hard to tell the soldier from the grenadier from the marine (all of whom have different abilities).
And I've heard complaints about the plot (and it doesn't help that the story isn't linear, each campaign gives you only part of the story, then the next campaign goes back and fills in gaps).

On unit diferentiation:
You can tell the difference between a marine and a tank, but you have three different kinds of foot solider, four kinds of ground vehicle, and four aircraft. They look so much a like that you tend to go "air units, attack!" because you don't know which ones you have.

Oh my god that game looks pretty awesome actually

Thank you for sharing this

[Draco18s]

Oh my god that game looks pretty awesome actually

Thank you for sharing this

It's pretty ok. It's a very difficult game to wrap your head around, and some of the missions are unforgiving. Any of the ones that have a deadline in time are very tight. There is no "I'd like 5 more units before I attack." No, you attack with five less than that and bring the extra 10 in later.

I did play one multiplayer game though, and despite getting resource screwed at the beginning (I set up harvesters, but my friend set up his harvesters in the past, essentially claiming them before I did) I still managed to route him in the end game.

(And I still, to this day, cannot figure out how to use a chronoporter effectively).

[JordanTH]

(And I still, to this day, cannot figure out how to use a chronoporter effectively).

I'm playing the chronocloning mission in the demo several times just to try and figure that out myself because it is hard. I kept chronofragging myself the first time around, but on my third attempt I managed to turn my two soldiers into forty full health soldiers.

[Draco18s]

I'm playing the chronocloning mission in the demo several times just to try and figure that out myself because it is hard. I kept chronofragging myself the first time around, but on my third attempt I managed to turn my two soldiers into forty full health soldiers.

Oh sure, I just meant that in a mission that doesn't specifically use it, I haven't figured it out. The problem is the "future orders" where they go back in time. If you need those 40 soldiers for longer than 3 seconds, they turn back into two.

(Also, do you mean the bonus challenge mission? Yeah, haven't beaten that yet).

[JordanTH]

Well, each time they're about to chronoport again, tell them not to, so they don't go back into the past. Then just make them travel backwards over time waves whenever they show up so as not to get retconned out of existence.

[Graknorke]

The actual time travel is pretty intuitive, it's figuring out when and how to use it that's hard.

And it turns out that the team that made the True Crime games has gone down or something?
Whatever, something that is classically True Crime: Manchester but with a different name. I want it so bad so I can laugh at their voices.