Video Games You Wish Existed

[Quirk]

Uh, I don't know. Many games have "tried" recently.

and the developers just don't get it. Like Cthulu saves the World and *shivers* the Stars are Left.

An Earthbound-like RPG that is like the Arkham Horrow BG would be amazing. All of the towns and cities like Dunwich and Innsmouth could be the locations, and the final boss is... shit, who would be the last boss? So many good choices...

Or maybe...maybe a Delta Green game. That would be sweet.

[Karhs12]

Uh, I don't know. Many games have "tried" recently.

and the developers just don't get it. Like Cthulu saves the World and *shivers* the Stars are Left.

I think the devs of Cthulu Saves the World knew perfectly well that what they were making didn't fit the Mythos very well. I mean, there are alien cats.
But yeah some proper mythos games would be pretty neat.

[MobileMammal]

I think the devs of Cthulu Saves the World knew perfectly well that what they were making didn't fit the Mythos very well. I mean, there are alien cats.
But yeah some proper mythos games would be pretty neat.

That's the problem. They were probably like, "Hey, you know what would sell really well to nerds?" and left it at that.

[BRPXQZME]

Impossible. The pages in question happened after page 50, and now any page past 50 is only available in Graphic Novel form. And there's no way in hell I'm spending cash amounts of money to prove myself right.

Just say which part you’re talking about and I can dredge some history up from my Intarcache™ free of charge. It has to fall under fair use, of course; I’m not about to release free Ratfist for everyone on the Internet to see or anything lawbreaky like that. Also, it has to exist for me to find it, of course.

If you can prove it, I’ll literally eat my words. Verbatim et literatim. Bear in mind that I say this having reread the comic and that I will not make good on this boast for anything less than a clear anti-gay message espoused by its contents (no stretching allowed). In all honesty, I don’t think it is possible to substantiate the claim that the thing is “anti-gay propoganda”, much less that that’s “the only things the the creator is doing now”. What he’s doing now is a new comic.

I think the devs of Cthulu Saves the World knew perfectly well that what they were making didn't fit the Mythos very well. I mean, there are alien cats.

The narrator even acknowledges this near the end when

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Cthulhu regains his powers and then the game promptly goes to BAD END. But then they backtrack all the while complaining that not going to BAD END with power-restored Cthulhu means losing every last shred of artistic integrity. In the commentary mode, they even note that test players expressed a preference for the BAD END compared to the good ending. At some point, they decided to have both.

[MobileMammal]

Just say which part you’re talking about and I can dredge some history up from my Intarcache™ free of charge. It has to fall under fair use, of course; I’m not about to release free Ratfist for everyone on the Internet to see or anything lawbreaky like that. Also, it has to exist for me to find it, of course.

If you can prove it, I’ll literally eat my words. Verbatim et literatim. Bear in mind that I say this having reread the comic and that I will not make good on this boast for anything less than a clear anti-gay message espoused by its contents (no stretching allowed). In all honesty, I don’t think it is possible to substantiate the claim that the thing is “anti-gay propoganda”, much less that that’s “the only things the the creator is doing now”. What he’s doing now is a new comic.

The narrator even acknowledges this near the end when

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Cthulhu regains his powers and then the game promptly goes to BAD END. But then they backtrack all the while complaining that not going to BAD END with power-restored Cthulhu means losing every last shred of artistic integrity. In the commentary mode, they even note that test players expressed a preference for the BAD END compared to the good ending. At some point, they decided to have both.

...I... uh... I really don't remember...

It doesn't really matter, though. Even if his work DIDN'T have anti-gay messages or really conservative messages (well, only ONE of his works) I honestly am not the best at separating the man from the art.

I really don't care about internet arguments, so fuck it, you win :V

[Quirk]

This video would make an awesome game.



DJ Hero + Rhythm Heaven + Phoenix Wright = Yes please

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Also this

[MobileMammal]

Oh my god.

DJ Pon-3 Pheonix and Daft Punk Edgeworth... and just Godot... SO GOOD.
MAKE THIS A REAL GAME NOW.

Seriously, though, a game that combines elements of OSU! and Rhythm Heaven would rule. Especially for PC, with multiplayer and custom tracks.

[Wiwaxia]

An MMO with no humans. Instead you have a whole world populated with various types of weird animals (kinda like Avatar, but without the Na'vi or anything sentient), and an actual ecosystem simulator, with niches and population models and biomes and whatnot. Players start as newborns of various species, like a hatchling dragonet in the jungle understory, or a baby herd beast on the plains, &c. You have to survive, eat, grow, reproduce, etc. If you get old and big enough, you can actually have some control over other animals (a herd beast would get dominance of a herd of its own, a giant dragon can wreck everyone's shit, &c.). Then, you can even begin to exert influence over the larger game world (a herd beast leads it's herd to graze at the edge of the forest, gradually turning it into plains, a great dragon can carry enough seeds in it's poop to kickstart new forests, &c.), behaviors of their species (a herd beast could discover how to eat a new kind of plant, a great dragon could start a new mating behavior, &c.), which would spread both through in-game learning mechanisms and out of game walkthroughs and forums, or even the course of evolution ( a herd beast could lead its herd to the sea, so swimming and breath holding would be selected for, a great dragon could only pick agile, colorful mates, starting a larger trend of sexual selection, &c.). There would be no respawns: if you die, you start again as a hatchling (but there would be something to keep evolutionary and behavioral trends in place, so if you were trying to adapt those and died, your work wouldn't be lost). Conversely, evolution would be sped up, and player characters couldn't die from old age, so, if they were careful, they could watch the changes they made happening. There would be no direct way to determine player characters from AI animals. Also, you would start with just a few player species, and, as different players changed different populations, those would become new species to start as.

[kholhaus]

I want a true zombie MMO, with a dual perma-death system.

Each month, the zombies and humans take up arms against each other. At the end of the month, the scores are tallied and the game resets. Characters are wiped in the nuclear blast. Players on the winning side gain small benefits for the next monthly round.

If you die, you die. No getting past that. If you die whilst infected, you get another chance at life as a zombie.
If you die as a zombie, GAME OVER.

[chimericWilder]

@Wiwaxia
i would definetely play that. So many one-sided games... And barely any of them have you playing as something that isnt humanoid, and few use actual creativity and originality.
Games with evolution basically require a huge developer team, though. way huge.

[BRPXQZME]

I’m not so convinced that a game that mimics evolution would necessarily require a huge team if you were willing to put up with, say, really weird Spore-y aliens and some simplification of the process for gamey/CPU reasons. Games with amazing emergent behavior such as S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl and Minecraft came from surprisingly small and unknown teams. This is because the trick is not massive asset production, but getting the formulas right.

But then there’s the counterexample Spore... though if I’m not mistaken, the kinds of techniques you see in that game such as procedural generation were not really the part that put it in development hell.

[chimericWilder]

Probably depends on what sort of quality you want from the evolution. Spore doesnt count as evolution either, since it is basically put into a bad approximation of a system that didnt work out.
But yea, stuff would probably depend on how things were handled.

[BRPXQZME]

Hey, I didn’t say Spore counted as evolution! But it does do neat tricks to make sure your creatures can walk and stuff like that, even when your species is an outright abomination that was clearly never meant to be.

However, simplified genes and machine learning are classical AI problems that computers of today can handle no sweat.

[Wiwaxia]

I was kinda just assuming you could loot an academic model to base it on. I mean, there's plenty of (very basic) natural selection and predation models online, and I'm sure there's some out-of date models some ecology department somewhere wouldn't mind handing over.

[Gigabacon]

Or maybe...maybe a Delta Green game. That would be sweet.

I would kill for a Delta Green game. It would be half door kicking, brutal put downs of cults etc, then the second half would be getting the fuck out of dodge when MAJESTIC shows up. Constantly low on equipment, constantly hunted, knowing that your fight is totally hopeless but fuck it you will make sure the human race will go down fighting.
Could potentially work well if it plays a bit like XCOM - you run a small cell of Delta Green operatives. As well as coordinating elimination missions, you also have to keep your group 2 steps ahead of the authorities that want you shut down, and the eldritch powers that want the last human resistance force gone.

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Choose federal law enforcement. Choose the military. Choose NASA or the CDC. Choose lying to your superiors. Choose to ruin your career. Choose no friends. Choose divorce. Choose life through the bottom of a bottle. Choose destroying evidence and executing innocent people because they know too fucking much. Choose black fatigues and matching gas masks. Choose an MP5 stolen from the CIA loaded with glasers, with a wide range of fucking attachments. Choose blazing away at mind numbing, sanity crushing things from beyond the stars, wondering whether you'd be better off stuffing the barrel in your own mouth. Choose The King In Yellow and waking up wondering who you are. Choose a 9mm retirement plan. Choose going out with a bang at the end of it all, PGP encrypting your last message down a securely laid cable as an NRO Delta wetworks squad busts through your door. Choose one last Night at the Opera. Choose Delta Green.

[SiriusBusiness]

Combination MMORPG, RTS, lifesim, and puzzle game.

If you play the MMORPG, you are a hero, and do MMO things.
If you play the RTS, you are a grand overwatching RTS eye and do RTS things. You can directly control weaker units, but you would need to post bounties in order to get players on the MMORPG "plane" to help complete more difficult missions.
If you play the sim (which would basically work the way The SIMS works, except in a fantasy universe), you're an NPC (or family of NPCs).
If you play the puzzle game, you can use it to craft items.

You would be able to freely move characters between the different game planes under the correct circumstances. The only game plane that would be mostly seperate would be the RTS plane, since obviously not every character can be a godking.

There is no in-built plot. Instead, some of the employees of the company that makes the game would have a modded version of the RTS plane with which to terrorize the players, just to get everything started.

I actually thought about this a while ago; except in the Avatar: the Last Airbender world. And it would start as an MMO, then become an RTS when you found a city; eventually, people would start creating their own empires with players instead of units. They could refuse to join your ranks.

[littlequietguy]

I really don't care about internet arguments, so fuck it, you win :V

You win what!? Say it with words.

[MobileMammal]

You win what!? Say it with words.

Nothing, it was a gentleman's bet.

You should have kept your mouth shut, you could have won the gentleman.

[BRPXQZME]

I putte the majesty of my TOWER of HATS on the LIGNE.

[MobileMammal]

In an internet argument, there are no winners.

Just losers. A bunch of losers.

'Cept me, I'm basically the raddest thing around.

[BRPXQZME]

speaking of which,

A new Sonic game that isn’t a new Sonic game. (good luck with that one, Sonic Team)

[littlequietguy]

Sequel to LSD Dream Emulator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxIyMhOu_ZE

Also an RPG model based on the Hero's Journey and Jungian archetypes.

[Quirk]

Also an RPG model based on the Hero's Journey and Jungian archetypes.

I am rather surprised that this hasn't been done. RPGs love rehashing cliches, but don't play the archetypes right nearly enough.

Looking at you, Bioware.

EDIT: Also, LSD Dream emulator meets Yume Nikki.

[Karhs12]

EDIT: Also, LSD Dream emulator meets Yume Nikki.

AKA Insomnia In a Can

[Varkarrus]

Haven't they already met?