Choice Asspects and Class-y Discussion V2.0

[Ekul]

Okay, I have a theory.

Knight(-)/Page(+)
One who protects.
Both are on the passive side of their respective lists, due to the inherent nature of protecting allies. Knights are still very much active due to how they go about it, though.
The knight protects allies by taking out larger threats with their aspect, effectively making the enemy lines weaker.
The Page protects allies by boosting their power through their aspect, effectively making the allies stronger.

Thoughts?

This sounds the most correct to me.
An interesting commonality is that both pages try to kinda do their own thing, when their role is better served being in the back seat; neither one is a battlefield powerhouse, even though both seem to want to be.
Tavros keeps putting himself into somewhat risky positions, and Jake longs to be in physical altercations. However, Tavros has a few friends who start to avoid him (Aradia, Nepeta) or that he starts to avoid (Gamzee, Vriska). His strengths is his imagination, but he never does anything useful with it. Similarly, Jake has the admiration of all his friends and could be a great motivator, or some sort of personelle manager (Getting Dirk to lighten up a bit is one example, he's more tolerant of Roxy's behavior is another). But he doesn't WANT to do it, so he hasn't done anything impressive yet, at least not on purpose.

According to this Page idea, neither is playing to their strengths.

[Isan]

Oh hey... im new here so I will be brief.

Im gonna copypaste a theory i used somewhere else:

After reading this page in which Aranea compares the flow of reality to a circulatory system, it´s main course would represent the alpha time line, those ramifications that would´t comply with this main course would just wither and die, helpful or not nonetheless, we can think this is probably an straight answer from Hussie himslef but could very well be a red herring.

Now if we see the flow of reality as blood we might have an insight into what a Hero of Blood is useful for. Karkat´s role as the knight is that of weaponize his aspect: his actions durning his session lead to the creation of multiple doomed realities from which the hundreds of Aradiabots needed for their succes; and his role as the cancer of their session would in time give birth to Bec Noir that now seems to be an important piece for the culmination of this tale.

Leghty? now bear with me and turn your atention into this page, we can theorise that the Sufferer was a Seer, a Seer that would glance into what had been, a reality beyond time that withered and died. That´s assuming the seer class is not gender exclusive.

EDIT: I a word.

[Arcanum]

Thief of Hope

"One who steals (Hope) for their benefit." Literally, would take hope and give it to herself. A basic demoralizer, in a way. It also depends in what other ways Hope can be interpreted (Light can be interpreted as Luck/Fortune). In this thread, I've seen people posit that Hope can be interpreted as Energy, in the sense of Eridan's wwhite science wwands. Stealing other's energy in order to power their own attacks, instead of wasting their own energy?

Bard of Breath

"One who allows (Breath) to be destroyed" or "One who invites destruction through (Breath)." Kind of interesting, would allow their teammates to take the air from the area? Once again, depends on how Breath can be interpreted. I've seen theories that Breath can be interpreted as Fate, or as Communication. A Bard of Breath, in the sense of Fate, would "allow Fate to be destroyed" or "invites destruction through Fate," which could be a fairly devastating power, fitting that of the Wildcard role Bard fills, the same role that can make or break a session.

Rogue of Mind

"One who steals (Mind) for other's benefit." An interesting combination. What little we know of Mind has it dealing with choices that people make, and the power those choices can have over everything. Frost covered this one rather well, imo.

Sylph of Heart

Sylph is a fairly unknown class, despite one of the remaining cast of trolls being one, and one of the most talkative dead players from A1 (so far) being a fully realized one. If you take Sylph to be "One who helps through (Aspect)," in the sense of Kanaya helping Jade breed the Frog and Aranea saying she "helped others see the Light," then you have someone who can help you settle a personal problem (relating to the splintering effect Dirk has, in the sense of splintered emotions?). However, if you take Aranea's offer to help Terezi see the Light as an offer to heal her eyesight (which is what it literally was), then it changes to "heals others through (Aspect)." Instead of assisting in fixing the problem in the example above, the Sylph would be the fix. Sylph is definitely a passive class, however, possibly taking both roles as "healer" and "helper."

Heart refers to Soul, along with possibly love, in the sense of Nepeta and her shipping. A Sylph of Heart would probably be good at doing what the memo's in the Troll Session were used for: fixing relationship and interpersonal issues, overall increasing the "cohesion" of the group.

Heir of Light

Heir is a pretty unknown class, despite the protagonist and 'friendleader' of the human session being one. No one here can really settle on what Heir should be, because John has been a good example of being both passive and active in his session, despite it being hinted to being a passive class by Hussie (though not explicitly stated). John seems to indirectly weaponize his Breath powers after ascending, and seemed to be protected or surrounded by it prior to ascending. An Heir of Light would most likely have a lot of luck before he would rise to the God Tiers, in essense the opposite of Vriska during Hivebent, and then commands fortune to be in his favor after ascension.

Page of Life

Page is another one of the many unknown classes, only described so far in canon by Dirk as having a lot of potential, and being late-bloomers in the context of the game, but once they have their powers sorted out, would be a powerhouse of sorts, with the Dirk Splinter again stating that the Page of Hope scares even him. Pages, however, seem to want to stumble into their power too early, like the Heirs would. Vriska wanted to help Tavros acheive his potential, but was unable to and ended up killing him.

Mage of Blood

Probably the second most unknown title, seconded only to the canon Mage of Doom. Blood and Doom are similar in that they haven't had much exposition to their powers, but one can infer that getting the entire hemospectrum to follow Karkat despite everyone's blood differences would mean Blood would have something to do with relationships. Mage is a hard class to pin down, along with Doom, as Sollux had a plethora of abilities and ailments. We don't know what of his powers and abilities were simply his genetics, Doom-y things, or Mage-y things. I'm of the mind Mage is either the passive half to the Witch, who is a Manipulator, essentially being another majyyk user class, due to Sollux's p2iioniic powers, or the active half to the Seer, due to Tholluth'th visions of imminent doom. If Mage is the active Seer, then the best example would be to look at the Signless, who saw visions of his past life in pre-scratch Alternia where the Hemospectrum was much different. Specifically, he saw the relationships he had with his player group. But he didn't get the full story, as the hemospectrum was still in place in A1, but served different purposes that made higher-ranked trolls "glorified slaves" to the lower echelons of the hemospectrum.

Witch of Time

A nice change from a relatively unknown to a nice known. Witches, while they haven't been described in canon yet, have shown the ability to "Manipulate (Aspect)." Jade manipulated the size (Space) and moved several objects with her powers, though one could argue that some of her powers came from Bec. Feferi, in the bubble, demonstrated the power to heal, to Manipulate the Life of WV from the point of near-death to health. A Witch of Time would most likely do a lot of what Dave did in B1: abuse time loops in order to fight and to get money and stuff. She might also have powers similar to some of the Felt, demonstrating the ability to slow down or speed up time relative to themselves, or enter a Doomed timeline based on certain parameters, or even fixing a paradox or time anomoly.

Knight of Rage

Rage is a pretty strange aspect, as it relates to intense emotions, often times anger. Gamzee allowed his teammates to be destroyed through their own natural rage. A Knight hasn't been officially described in canon, but based on what Dave has done, a Knight would utilize their powers in combat, sometimes as a physical weapon, in the sense of Caledscratch. A Knight of Rage would utilize their own natural anger and emotions to fight, so I'm guessing it would be a pretty standard Berserker-type class. A sweeper. They would inflict huge amounts of damage really fast.

Seer of Doom

Once again, Doom is a very little known aspect. Seers have been shown to have comprehensive knowledge of their Aspect, or are able to see the big picture in regards to their Aspect. Sollux had visions of imminent Doom, but they were never clear and very cryptic at best. His visions told him that everyone would die, and in a sense, they did. Maybe a realized Seer of Doom would be able to see where a Doomed Timeline occurs, and work to stop it? Maybe they can see a death, in the sense of Fin from the Felt, knowing where someone will die.

Prince of Void

Princes are an active Destroyer class. Void relates to the obfuscation of knowledge, or simply nothing. A Prince of Void would have fairly simple powers with wide-reaching outcomes: They destroy the Void. This can be interpreted as destroying nothing in particular, or it can be interpreted as getting rid of the nothing so that something can be there. Would be a helpful companion to a Hero of Space, most likely. Maybe it can refer to destroying a blackout in relation to someone going Grimdark. Or possibly they are the bane of the Horrorterrors, who knows?

Maid of Space

Maid appears to be a fairly active class, as they defend themselves using their Aspect (Jane healing herself after being stabbed by Jack on Prospit, Aradia stopping Bec Noir in time for a few moments before using him as a portal to the Green Sun). However, if Maids "Serve" (in the sense that Aradia has been serving a greater entity, such as LE the alpha timeline), then it would possibly be a passive class? Regardless, Space is a straightforward Aspect, referring to a physical entity, size, velocity, location, things related to space. If Maids "Defend themselves using (Aspect)," then a Maid of Space would be the equivalent of that one annoying Pokemon in competitive battles who runs a set with Substitute, Baton Pass, a buffing power, and Reflect/Light Screen, and brings in a Sweeper who has all the buffs from the previous Pokemon, but in human(oid) form, and without the buffing powers or switching powers. Maybe her powers work in the sense that an Earthbender from Avatar could erect a wall of Earth to block an attack. The "Serving" interpretation also fits, as the Space player is the one in charge of breeding the frogs. The Maid of Space would serve SBURB in the sense that it would propagate a new universe for more sessions, to continue the cycle.

[d2r123]

Hmm, I think I'll give an opinion on those too.

Thief of Hope
Hope seems to have nothing to do with knowlege. Eridan and jake both seemed a bit blind but they still had asperations and eventualy power(we know jake can fight le). So, theives of hope would depress other people and somehow steal power from them. They would beat their super-monster by talking to it until it cried and then taking whatever it had. As for the story ark of their personality, they would start out directionless, thinking the world is pointless. Eventualy their constant complaining and cring would beat down their leader's and team's confedence. They would then get hypocriticaly pissed at everyone else for sitting around and whip out the lazer-hat and what have you and take on the black king themselve's. If they lose, everyone else would finish the job.

A seer of hope(bonus)
Would be able to see how people's goals would lead them to the future. They would also be able to tell people's modivation. As such, they could make anyone do anything. Ace manipulator, right here.

Bard of Breath
Breath is initiation, birth, and randomness, and fate, as an extention of randomness. So, one who lets destruction happen by setting things in motion would basicaly destroy everything around everything they touched. The session would fail and it would be their fault, indirectly. As far as power, they would basicaly have wind powers and flight like john.

Rogue of Mind
Rouges radiate their aspect better as they get farther away from their aspect. Power wise, mind control seems to be a part of it. The "causality" part seemes to be a seer function, not a mind function. So, the rogue of mind would get more powerful as they thought less. How they thought less, through insanity or vegitableness, is unknown. I think they would go the way of a rage player, maybe. However, this would basicaly make them very good followers and anyone near them would be far more willing to do whatever others told them.

Sylph of Heart
I said earlyer that heart seems to be a more physical matter. So, this would mean that sylph of heart would work like a Sylph of Life, but would not be able to bring people back from the afterlife. They would also work like a very good phyciatrist. Considering that powers in the game are very linked to players growing up as people, a sylph of self would basicaly be able to optimise the rest of the team, if they were willing to listen. So that means no or few rage players. They would be best on a team filled with pages.

Heir of Light
Unlike varisca or rose, they would have to be given their power. Their power is of knowlege and favorability. Power wise, they would be closer to varisca. Unlike her, they would not start out with any deposit of bad luck to fight against. Basicaly, any useful gift given or any instance of rescue would boost the heir's power. A very easy to grow class. Just entering the game without dieing would count toward their power. They would be most powerful when surrounded by good will.

Page of Life
Would start their story ark with no life. Someone else would have to prototype them before they could start the game, and that would mean prototyping a page AND a life player. Enemies just became a huge pain. In the end, immortality could be granted to everyone around them. A powerhouse life player is good in any game.

Mage of Blood
A mage is one who contains the essence of magic. In this case, magic is replaced with their aspect. This does not confirm if they are an active seer or a passive witch. Thankfully, this places them near the middle no matter what which makes sence. Because they contain their aspect, they can gain some understanding directly through the aspect like a seer but can also use their aspect like magic like a witch. However, they have to somehow fuse with their aspect. The quesion becomes, how does one become an avatar of relationships, sociology, and maybe politics? I recomend fusing with the white or black queen. This way, they can use their identity as a queen to gain power from the ring. Their magic would basicaly be mass mind controll.

Witch of Time
Simply bend time with will. Also, fuse with an avatar of time somehow. I would guess that they fuse with their scratch initiating device. In battle, they just raise their hand and their enemy's sword from the future jabs them in the back. Then the enemy takes a few steps back and falls forword. When they fall forward, their sword goes back in time and stabbs them. More often then not, they would just toss a dagger and guide it to whenever and where ever they need it.

Knight of Rage
One who protects/protects with rage. Mostly, this would work like gamzee on the ocations where he used his power directly. He would often gain large damage boosts, though not as large as gamzee did. He would almost always be mad. Somehow, he would have to use his power to help copies of himeself, though. Because emotion can be transfered through trollian, I am guessing he would work like karkat in that respect, exept the later copies of himself would also be angry, insted of learning some lesson. This could be the method by which he maintaines his anger, which would usualy burn out eventualy.

Seer of Doom
This is an extream overlaping of powers. Doom refers to an old meaning, in this case fate. This is different from breath because randomness is not a factor here. It also refers to the modern, morbid meaning of doom. They would stimply know everything as it will be, and be totaly unable to do anything about it. On the other hand, they could serve to close any number of time loops and be a perfect pawn in any number of suburb's plans. they could also only shair the knowlege that they already know they are supposed to shair.

Prince of Void
Being a prince, they have to lead to their own destruction somehow. A prince of void would, in the end, die because no one knew they needed help. In the mean time, they would have to create huge amounts of matter. Prince of nothing would have to be a jpeg hero who actualy uses the jpeg products. They would act like a prince, self important and swagy, but this would have to be a facade. they would have to use the sord because they were to good to need fancy equipment. The existance of this facade could fill part of the requierments of some void players. They would get away with using the sword and unreal air and such because, as a prince, they would have potent enough void powers to black out their enemy. I suspect that they would literaly fill up their session with jpeg artifacts so that they could aford some jped artifact that actualy cost something. To do this, they would set up a sendificating upgrade to their Alchemiter and somehow automate the proses of making crap and getting rid of it. This would continue after they died. When they died, the seer type players in the session would start to function.

Maid of Space
Maids can definitly use their powers in a magic-will based way so a maid of space would be like a watered down and more deffence based jade. However, I think that maids also only arive in sessions in which their aspect is initialy damaged on the whole. This is true for jane, her planet it dead, dream jake is dead, dirk is the only man alive, roxy is the only woman alive, and the red miles is destroying everything. It's definitly true for aradia, her planet is post scratch for some reason and all she spent a large amount of time fixint and using beta timelines. This means that a maid of space would have to arive in a world where space is damaged. the only question is, what would that look like? I am going to guess a world where their frog's white frog is born damaged. Because it is damaged, they would only be able to create a damaged genisis frog with a damaged universe. A damaged frog would damage all aspects of that universe, exept the potential for a new, undamaged frog. So, that univers would have only maids and a page of space. That's a bumpy ride right there.

[Doc Scratch]

Hope can be interpreted into actual hope and the energy and will that comes with it, or actual energy beams of white doom. In the Thief of Hope's case, he/she would be able to take away motivation to benefit him/herself. He/She would be able to drain the energy someone has to be stronger or better. The downside however, would be cockiness.

[lambentLogic]

I wonder what a Sylph of Void would do.

[The_Unoriginal]

Might a class have something to do with the weapons they use?

Heirs have weapons that bludgeon and smash. The only move it can do it "hit," but it hits hard. (Hammer, Fist)

Seers use items that happen to also be able to be used as weapons. (Needles, Cane)

Knights have more traditional specibuses, things you'd see warriors of old use (Blade (before it got sliced in two), Sickle)

Witches are given their weapons from family/ancestors. (Rifle, 2X3dent)

Maids also have the multi-use weapons, but it seems to be more focused on their hobbies (Spoon, Whip)

Princes grab the most powerful weapon(s) they can get their hands on (Unbreakable Katana, FNCYSNTA, All-powerful rifle, Wand)

Rogues are armed with what is like themselves/their image (Science-powered rifle, Claw)

Pages are trying to look cool? (2Xpistol, Lance (even before being put in a wheelchair))

Without counterparts, I'm not sure if I want to try figuring out what the other classes would use.

[Limanya]

Might a class have something to do with the weapons they use?

Heirs have weapons that bludgeon and smash. The only move it can do it "hit," but it hits hard. (Hammer, Fist)

Seers use items that happen to also be able to be used as weapons. (Needles, Cane)

Knights have more traditional specibuses, things you'd see warriors of old use (Blade (before it got sliced in two), Sickle)

Witches are given their weapons from family/ancestors. (Rifle, 2X3dent)

Maids also have the multi-use weapons, but it seems to be more focused on their hobbies (Spoon, Whip)

Princes grab the most powerful weapon(s) they can get their hands on (Unbreakable Katana, FNCYSNTA, All-powerful rifle, Wand)

Rogues are armed with what is like themselves/their image (Science-powered rifle, Claw)

Pages are trying to look cool? (2Xpistol, Lance (even before being put in a wheelchair))

Without counterparts, I'm not sure if I want to try figuring out what the other classes would use.

Both Thieves have a weapon that has something to do with the ancestors. (Fluorite Octet, 2x3dent)

[awfulAlliteration]

I was musing the other day over the Sylph Class. A lot of people assume it's like a healer-type class. To me, that doesn't really make sense given Kanya's role as Sylph of Space. If anything, she does the opposite - lets Karkat bungle the frog-breeding. So here is MY theory.

If a Witch is interpreted as "one who manipulates their Aspect/manipulates with their Aspect," then couldn't Sylph be "one who allows their Aspect to be manipulated?" Again, back to Kanaya and Karkat - Kanaya allows Karkat to ruin the Genesis Frog. Allowing him to manipulate Space. Aranea's offer of returning Terezi's vision could be that she is allowing the actual physical light to be manipulated into signals by her eyes again.

Just a crack idea I had, but I kind of like it.

[Greyscale]

To me, that doesn't really make sense given Kanya's role as Sylph of Space. If anything, she does the opposite - lets Karkat bungle the frog-breeding.

And that was a mistake; it gave the universe cancer. More often than not, if a character makes a mistake to bring about an outcome they never intended, that mistake is supposed to run counter to their given class. That's what makes it a mistake for the player to fix.

[Doom Zero]

Might a class have something to do with the weapons they use?

Knights have more traditional specibuses, things you'd see warriors of old use (Blade (before it got sliced in two), Sickle)

Everything else was doing well and good, but you tried to say that a sickle is a traditional weapon. That's really not true.

"Like other farming tools, sickles lend themselves naturally as improvised bladed weapons."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sickle#As_a_weapon
The more you know.

[awfulAlliteration]

And that was a mistake; it gave the universe cancer. More often than not, if a character makes a mistake to bring about an outcome they never intended, that mistake is supposed to run counter to their given class. That's what makes it a mistake for the player to fix.

Hmm, true enough. But then, if Karkat's bungling the Genesis Frog was a mistake as well, then why is it used as an example of the Blood Aspect being used (when Blood is being construed as Sacrifice, or the aforementioned "flow" example from right at the top of this page)?

[Nar]

So, I was toying with gt's in my head the other day, and I was thinking about what a Prince of Time would do.

Seeing as how the Prince is the destroyer class, and Time seems to be directly(ish) related to timelines, would it be accurate to think that a session with a Prince of Time would have many doomed timelines?

Or perhaps, a Prince would do things that directly result in doomed timelines (perhaps even knowingly), and a Bard would let things happen leading to doomed timelines?

What do other people think about this?

[Greyscale]

Hmm, true enough. But then, if Karkat's bungling the Genesis Frog was a mistake as well, then why is it used as an example of the Blood Aspect being used (when Blood is being construed as Sacrifice, or the aforementioned "flow" example from right at the top of this page)?

It sounds like you are taking that example from a piece of speculation that someone other than Hussie used. If so, it is merely speculation, and has every possibility of being false.

An alternative piece of speculation is that Blood is "Relationships", ie, "Blood bonds". Example: he protected his friends with moiralliegence.

Note that this is a less ambiguous "success".

[awfulAlliteration]

So, I was toying with gt's in my head the other day, and I was thinking about what a Prince of Time would do.

Seeing as how the Prince is the destroyer class, and Time seems to be directly(ish) related to timelines, would it be accurate to think that a session with a Prince of Time would have many doomed timelines?

Or perhaps, a Prince would do things that directly result in doomed timelines (perhaps even knowingly), and a Bard would let things happen leading to doomed timelines?

What do other people think about this?

That sounds plausible. I can also imagine a Prince of Time causing a bunch of paradoxes to wreck their foes. After all, if they were incapacitated before the fight, how did they get there in the first place? Answer - they didn't, so the battle never happens because the threat was already neutralized. I can see a Prince of Time making a session incredibly easy. That or insanely difficult.

[The_Codfish]

A Prince of Time would destroy time or destroy using time. It wouldn't make sense if he JUST created doomed timelines; it has to be for a reason. Perhaps if he doomed a timeline to add extra 'firepower' to the Alpha, ala the Roboradia army versus the Black King. Having the Prince of Time destroy doomed timelines works as well. Kind of like what Aradia had been doing in the Troll session. Both interpretations pretty much fit what Aradia had done during the Troll session, actually.

[Doom Zero]

So, I was toying with gt's in my head the other day, and I was thinking about what a Prince of Time would do.

Seeing as how the Prince is the destroyer class, and Time seems to be directly(ish) related to timelines, would it be accurate to think that a session with a Prince of Time would have many doomed timelines?

Or perhaps, a Prince would do things that directly result in doomed timelines (perhaps even knowingly), and a Bard would let things happen leading to doomed timelines?

What do other people think about this?

Your description of a Bard of Time is redundant.

Consider the idea of two distinct types of doomed timeline. These types might be described as natural and artificial.

Natural DTLs are caused by a player making the wrong choice. Karkat is implied to have caused a great deal of these. It's the duty of the Player of Time to travel back in time, out of the doomed timeline to correct the error and set events flowing correctly.

Artificial DTLs are caused by a player using time travel intentionally, but incorrectly. When DD stole the Journals from Dave, he went back in time in an attempt to stop DD. Because that version of Dave died, he could not propagate a timeloop. Theoretically, if Dave¹ survived, he could tell Dave² to travel back in time to confront DD, and then Dave¹ would resume his place in the timeline. That would've caused a stable timeloop. However, because the timeloop was not formed, Dave¹'s timeline stayed as a separate timeline from the alpha, doomed to an existence without a living Dave. That's an artificial DTL, and it can't be corrected. You know an artificial DTL has been formed if a paradox is formed without a stable timeloop accompanying it.

So, theoretically, a Prince of Time might cause a lot of Artificial DTLs (that would really suck for them and I wouldn't recommend it) while a Bard of Time causes a lot of Natural DTLs. Except, if those DTLs are natural, then the Bard couldn't be consciously creating them. And the Bard, as the sole Time player, would be responsible for fixing them, so his role in the session is basically to do what any other time player would do, except his mere existence causes a great deal more of them. That's why a Bard of Time as described by you would be horribly redundant, and if not redundant than a ridiculous waste.

[Menen]

Im less interested in Aspects and more intersted in how a Robe would change based on your Aspect, or even your personality.

Like how John's Hoodie is very long and wavy, like the wind. However, Tavros is also a Breath Player, and he lacks the wavy hood, but he also lacks pants.

I want to believe that the lack of pants is based on the running gag in various televised programs where a character walks into a room wearing no pants and says "It sure is breezy in here!" Or "Does anyone else feel a draft?"

[Varkarrus]

the robe design is based off of class. Compare god-tier equius and god-tier john

[Menen]

the robe design is based off of class. Compare god-tier equius and god-tier john

We have seen godtier Equius?

[Arcanum]

I was musing the other day over the Sylph Class. A lot of people assume it's like a healer-type class. To me, that doesn't really make sense given Kanya's role as Sylph of Space. If anything, she does the opposite - lets Karkat bungle the frog-breeding. So here is MY theory.

If a Witch is interpreted as "one who manipulates their Aspect/manipulates with their Aspect," then couldn't Sylph be "one who allows their Aspect to be manipulated?" Again, back to Kanaya and Karkat - Kanaya allows Karkat to ruin the Genesis Frog. Allowing him to manipulate Space. Aranea's offer of returning Terezi's vision could be that she is allowing the actual physical light to be manipulated into signals by her eyes again.

Just a crack idea I had, but I kind of like it.

And that was a mistake; it gave the universe cancer. More often than not, if a character makes a mistake to bring about an outcome they never intended, that mistake is supposed to run counter to their given class. That's what makes it a mistake for the player to fix.

Mainly this, but if the interpretation of Sylph is "Healer" or "Helper," then she accomplished her job extraordinarily well by helping Jade finish breeding the Genesis Frog, prior to being blown up by CD. And she is also fixing the mistake she and Karkat made in giving the universe cancer in the first place, by working their hardest to make sure a new universe is viable. Which it still is, assuming the Genesis Frog that Jade bred is still alive in some capacity in the Forge.

Im less interested in Aspects and more intersted in how a Robe would change based on your Aspect, or even your personality.

Class determines the style of the god tier pajamas, while aspect determines the color scheme. Compare Karkat seen here in all his doomed self-ness, to Dave. Same Knight design, different colors. Now, compare Rose (just look at either of those pages really) and Vriska. Same colors, as dictated by the Light aspect, but different pajamas.

The robes themselves don't really change your outlook. It's more like the powers do. Vriska was kind of down because of all her 8ad 8r8ks, but she regained a lot of her confidence when she god-tiered and gained the ability to steal other's luck for herself.

[cardiacAtrophy]

Right. Heirs all get windsock hoods. (cause heir/air lol) Pages always get their Robin Boy Wonder costumes. Witches always get their double-tipped hood, dress, stockings, and slippers.

[Limanya]

NOOOOO
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[Arcanum]

NOOOOO
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I'm not seeing a problem with seeing Jake without any pants.

I don't think people realize that he can pull these off flawlessly now.

[Menen]

NOOOOO
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Exactly my feelings