Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Originally Posted by opuk0
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First, never feel like yo'ure wasting anyone's time here. We are here to give and receive advice and we're glad to do so.
Although to be honest, I'm not really sure what to say here. I'm woefully inexperienced in the matters of the heart. I do know some people on this thread have experience with Polyamory, so I think it's best I leave this to them. What I can say is don't lose hope, there's a solution for everything.
She sleeps in tower ivory, she dreams in one of gold,
At once she is both young and dead and old.
She sees what is to happen, knows not what will unfold.
Fire took her dreams away, now emptiness rules sleep,
In bubbles ruled by creatures mad her sanity she keeps
And through the madness she becomes a wolf and not a sheep.
Now space is in her grasp, power great and vast
And on the golden inch she sails on ship of golden masts
To face a fiend of power cosmic, whose reign forever lasts.
How will this journey end, no one can be sure,
But however it will end, the universe she’ll cure.
John:
Zephyr his mount, sapphire his cape
The Heir arrives on wings of storm
Lightning his scepter, thunder his crown
The power of Breath the world does transform
Light on his feet, light in his heart
Greatness is his, his to perform
Potential endless, given by air
The power of Breath the world does transform
Joy rules him still, though darkness looms close
And sorrows and pain threaten to swarm
He rises above, the sky is his throne
The power of Breath the world does transform
Though kindness is his, cruelty cast aside
Threaten his kin, trouble their form
And prepare to reap a whirlwind of force
The power of Breath your hate will transform.
Rose:
At the tip of her wand seraphim dance
A ballet of strife with devils of chance.
Sable and Emerald duel for her mind;
If either prevails , her fate won’t be kind
At all times in control, except when she’s not.
Aberrations of dread foul feelers do send.
They whisper of treason, damnation and rot,
Of crimes she could never hope to amend.
She will not surrender, relinquish no sliver
Of her mind to the hunters that come from the void.
Fight them every step, she won’t falter or quiver;
She fights for herself, least she be destroyed.
With wizardry and light, the future she scouts,
The roll of the dice now her crystal ball,
And though what she sees may cause her some doubt
The Seer will never again be a thrall.
Furious Pariah, hard of shell
Herder of wolves, they bite at his ankles
Making his way through a hazy hell.
Hurried the midwife, doomed the born
Ruinous creator, tumorous doctor
He failed, for hatred now sworn.
In desolation lingers, never dares to hope
For he knows hope is a butcher
With his helplessness he cannot cope
Rage too betrayed him, bond asunder
Leaving a trail of corpses behind
The jester cares not if he goes under
Trapped in loathing, harried by temporal shades
Cursed by heretical plasma, hidden by shame
Jealousy grows, cultivated by sightless blades
Blindness sneers at him
Callousness will spare not a moment
His blood by loneliness made dim
Kanaya:
On sunny sands she walks, while others in darkness sleep.
Caring soul, ancestor to a generation that will never be born.
Care is met with cruelty, dealt by the spider’s sting,
Her love is repaid with indifference, pricks like the sharpest thorn.
Amphibian progeny she raises, watched by a warrior filled with pride
Haste her child will doom, the warrior demands it still, she obeys.
A universe is born only to die again.
Her love is repaid by stillbirth; her child will never see the light of day.
Fleeing from bladed death, her last hope has yet to hatch,
She shows compassion to a wounded soul, giving it a goal.
That hope is a devil in sheep’s skin, and burns all others.
Her love is repaid with treason, and in her heart a hole.
With vengeance she rises again, less and more than she was.
The devil is cleaved by a sword of teeth. It gives her no peace.
Now she searches for a space to call her own.
Her love is waiting for a balm that the pain will cease.
He is without equal, brain like a storm
Hateful and wretched, worthless worm
Wisdom and knowledge, power unknown
Ignorant fool, his fate does bemoan
Fierce is his mind, fierce his heart too
Cowardly maggot of red and blue
She was his best friend, she could have been more
He fired and fired, left nothing but gore
He saved her life, she kissed him and smiled
Shot through the chest, while he choked on bile
He did what he could, it wasn’t his fault
He failed like always, her death couldn’t halt
Blackness unfolds him, no more red and blue
Duality vanished, the dying shouts are gone
Peace at last, a final dark dawn.
Tranquility in emptiness
Rest in the void
Clarity in blindness
Unity in death.
Pointy shades, bulbous rump
Ironic coolness, rhymes I pump
Shatterproof sword, Causal cap
Layers of satire, I take no crap
Flashy moves, tasty grooves
Never lose, always the one to choose
Faster than sound, flashing around
Cutting fools down, fighting black clowns
Jet board, can’t be ignored, check out the sword
Slashing through imps like metaphysical gourds
Grist hoard, everything afford, won every single possible award
Shit so easy, I get bored.
Got Cal, best pal, me and him is an entire cabal
Bounce a coin, try not to look sad;
It won’t get to land before I send you
Beaten so bad like a kick to the groin
You can’t beat Bro at shit, I’m simply the best there is
Holding a monopoly on the asskicking biz.
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Yeah, I guess a month is kind of a short time, and we did kinda talk about possibly moving too fast.
I don't mean to ignore your advice, but I really feel different about this girl than I do with any other I have before. I'm sorry for speaking like that kind of person, but I really feel like she is 'the one'. As ridiculous as that sounds, I really wanna stay with her and make her happy, even if that makes me into a love martyr.
Again, sorry for talking like that kind of person.
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Don't apologize, there is nothing wrong with being romantic. Except that sometimes, you forget that the world isn't quite as absolute as you would like it to be. I know you probably don't want to think about it this way, I sure didn't, but you are almost guaranteed to meet someone in the future who will make you almost completely forget about this girl. There is no reason for you to sacrifice your happiness for her benefit. It would be a cruel injustice to both yourself and to her. Think of how it would pain her to see you in such constant torment. You're free to do what you will, but I implore you to do what is best for the both of you. Remember also, that time heals all wounds in sufficient doses.
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
And it's been somewhatish resolved.
We had a pretty heavy feelings jam about both our situations. I told her how I felt about her and that I knew I was acting selfish for wanting her to love only me. I told her that I thought she was the one for me, but she's scared to rush things because she ended up engaged the last time she did.
Even if only a bit of progress was made, I feel better now that I told her everything, and hopefully she'll come to feel the same way about me in the future.
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Well 18 is a perfectly reasonable age to have intense feelings of connection with other people, romantically. It is also fairly young, and you will meet scores of other people in your life, especially as you mature into an adult over the next half dozen years or so.
Good work communicating your desires in a way that isn't accusatory or assuming. That's a really good skill to have. Proper communication is the cornerstone of any meaningful relationship.
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
My two cents: It's hard to tell if somebody's "the one" if you've only known them for a month. Everyone has dark, unattractive parts of their personality that rarely get exposed. If you still love her after you've seen her at her absolute ugliest (and vice versa) and you still want to be together, then she has a much better chance of being the one.
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
I think I have a slightly different thing to bring to the MonoPoly conversation. It seems possible to me that the one who needs to change is you. Think seriously about what you find wrong with polyamory. If it's just jealousy, perhaps get to know C more. It seems to me that you're the only one stopping everyone involved from being happy.
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Avi shop'd by me and student'd by аshdenej.
Quotes:
I'm the healer who just rezed you.
Love is good. It doesn't matter what gender. Hate is bad. It doesn't matter what excuse.
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Originally Posted by AdurnaFricai
I think I have a slightly different thing to bring to the MonoPoly conversation. It seems possible to me that the one who needs to change is you. Think seriously about what you find wrong with polyamory. If it's just jealousy, perhaps get to know C more. It seems to me that you're the only one stopping everyone involved from being happy.
This seems.. rash. It sounds a bit too close to saying to a LGBT person-"what do you find wrong with heterosexuality- you're the one stopping everyone from being happy". If I offend, I apologize, but I don't think someone that is obviously uncomfortable with the idea needs to think the problem is with him.
She sleeps in tower ivory, she dreams in one of gold,
At once she is both young and dead and old.
She sees what is to happen, knows not what will unfold.
Fire took her dreams away, now emptiness rules sleep,
In bubbles ruled by creatures mad her sanity she keeps
And through the madness she becomes a wolf and not a sheep.
Now space is in her grasp, power great and vast
And on the golden inch she sails on ship of golden masts
To face a fiend of power cosmic, whose reign forever lasts.
How will this journey end, no one can be sure,
But however it will end, the universe she’ll cure.
John:
Zephyr his mount, sapphire his cape
The Heir arrives on wings of storm
Lightning his scepter, thunder his crown
The power of Breath the world does transform
Light on his feet, light in his heart
Greatness is his, his to perform
Potential endless, given by air
The power of Breath the world does transform
Joy rules him still, though darkness looms close
And sorrows and pain threaten to swarm
He rises above, the sky is his throne
The power of Breath the world does transform
Though kindness is his, cruelty cast aside
Threaten his kin, trouble their form
And prepare to reap a whirlwind of force
The power of Breath your hate will transform.
Rose:
At the tip of her wand seraphim dance
A ballet of strife with devils of chance.
Sable and Emerald duel for her mind;
If either prevails , her fate won’t be kind
At all times in control, except when she’s not.
Aberrations of dread foul feelers do send.
They whisper of treason, damnation and rot,
Of crimes she could never hope to amend.
She will not surrender, relinquish no sliver
Of her mind to the hunters that come from the void.
Fight them every step, she won’t falter or quiver;
She fights for herself, least she be destroyed.
With wizardry and light, the future she scouts,
The roll of the dice now her crystal ball,
And though what she sees may cause her some doubt
The Seer will never again be a thrall.
Furious Pariah, hard of shell
Herder of wolves, they bite at his ankles
Making his way through a hazy hell.
Hurried the midwife, doomed the born
Ruinous creator, tumorous doctor
He failed, for hatred now sworn.
In desolation lingers, never dares to hope
For he knows hope is a butcher
With his helplessness he cannot cope
Rage too betrayed him, bond asunder
Leaving a trail of corpses behind
The jester cares not if he goes under
Trapped in loathing, harried by temporal shades
Cursed by heretical plasma, hidden by shame
Jealousy grows, cultivated by sightless blades
Blindness sneers at him
Callousness will spare not a moment
His blood by loneliness made dim
Kanaya:
On sunny sands she walks, while others in darkness sleep.
Caring soul, ancestor to a generation that will never be born.
Care is met with cruelty, dealt by the spider’s sting,
Her love is repaid with indifference, pricks like the sharpest thorn.
Amphibian progeny she raises, watched by a warrior filled with pride
Haste her child will doom, the warrior demands it still, she obeys.
A universe is born only to die again.
Her love is repaid by stillbirth; her child will never see the light of day.
Fleeing from bladed death, her last hope has yet to hatch,
She shows compassion to a wounded soul, giving it a goal.
That hope is a devil in sheep’s skin, and burns all others.
Her love is repaid with treason, and in her heart a hole.
With vengeance she rises again, less and more than she was.
The devil is cleaved by a sword of teeth. It gives her no peace.
Now she searches for a space to call her own.
Her love is waiting for a balm that the pain will cease.
He is without equal, brain like a storm
Hateful and wretched, worthless worm
Wisdom and knowledge, power unknown
Ignorant fool, his fate does bemoan
Fierce is his mind, fierce his heart too
Cowardly maggot of red and blue
She was his best friend, she could have been more
He fired and fired, left nothing but gore
He saved her life, she kissed him and smiled
Shot through the chest, while he choked on bile
He did what he could, it wasn’t his fault
He failed like always, her death couldn’t halt
Blackness unfolds him, no more red and blue
Duality vanished, the dying shouts are gone
Peace at last, a final dark dawn.
Tranquility in emptiness
Rest in the void
Clarity in blindness
Unity in death.
Pointy shades, bulbous rump
Ironic coolness, rhymes I pump
Shatterproof sword, Causal cap
Layers of satire, I take no crap
Flashy moves, tasty grooves
Never lose, always the one to choose
Faster than sound, flashing around
Cutting fools down, fighting black clowns
Jet board, can’t be ignored, check out the sword
Slashing through imps like metaphysical gourds
Grist hoard, everything afford, won every single possible award
Shit so easy, I get bored.
Got Cal, best pal, me and him is an entire cabal
Bounce a coin, try not to look sad;
It won’t get to land before I send you
Beaten so bad like a kick to the groin
You can’t beat Bro at shit, I’m simply the best there is
Holding a monopoly on the asskicking biz.
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Originally Posted by AdurnaFricai
I think I have a slightly different thing to bring to the MonoPoly conversation. It seems possible to me that the one who needs to change is you. Think seriously about what you find wrong with polyamory. If it's just jealousy, perhaps get to know C more. It seems to me that you're the only one stopping everyone involved from being happy.
Some people, if not most, just don't have it in them to be part of a fulfilling poly relationship, and there's nothing wrong with that. Nobody needs to change, if he's not happy with the arrangement then things probably wouldn't work out long-term anyway. (coming clean with her about his misgivings was definitely the right way to go.)
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Hm, you two have a point. I guess I was kinda biased, since my exposure level makes it hard for me to see polyamorous relationships as inherently different. I'll take your word for it that they are, I've never thought of it as being anything but more of whatever type of relationship a person is interested in.
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Avi shop'd by me and student'd by аshdenej.
Quotes:
I'm the healer who just rezed you.
Love is good. It doesn't matter what gender. Hate is bad. It doesn't matter what excuse.
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Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Hey.
Still nothing for me to really ask about or tell about a good thing that has happened romance-wise, and I can't subscribe to the thread without having some kind of text here.
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
There's an option to subscribe to a thread under the "Thread Tools" option at the top right of the posting board (under the page numbers).
So for awhile I've been kind of afraid that when I eventually* break into the dating scene I'm going to end up walking into a bad situation without realizing it because of my complete lack of romantic experience* and general social awkwardness. Earlier this week something made me wonder about what I'd do if I ended up in an abusive relationship, and I couldn't honestly answer the question, and that worries me.
*living in a conservative town with religious parents who might go as far as to kick me out. And that matters insofar as I need them to help pay for college
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Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Can someone explain what exactly genderqueer means? I thought it just mean trans or gender neutral, but apparently that is wrong? I am very confused right now
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Originally Posted by Elementoid
There's an option to subscribe to a thread under the "Thread Tools" option at the top right of the posting board (under the page numbers).
So for awhile I've been kind of afraid that when I eventually* break into the dating scene I'm going to end up walking into a bad situation without realizing it because of my complete lack of romantic experience* and general social awkwardness. Earlier this week something made me wonder about what I'd do if I ended up in an abusive relationship, and I couldn't honestly answer the question, and that worries me.
*living in a conservative town with religious parents who might go as far as to kick me out. And that matters insofar as I need them to help pay for college
Well, dating is all about learning from mistakes. Will you find your hubby on your first date? Probably not. The thing about life is we can't know what will happen or what we will do until they actually happen. Don't worry too much about the future and just enjoy it while it happens and roll with what happens.
Originally Posted by wrinklefudger
Can someone explain what exactly genderqueer means? I thought it just mean trans or gender neutral, but apparently that is wrong? I am very confused right now
Genderqueer is any gender that isn't male or female. It doesn't really apply to trans because they are usually male or female just in the wrong body. It could apply to gender neutral but not exclusively. There's also people who are a middle gender, people who are both genders, people who switch between genders, or people who just don't prescribe to gender at all.
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Originally Posted by DecidedlyDevious
Genderqueer is any gender that isn't male or female. It doesn't really apply to trans because they are usually male or female just in the wrong body. It could apply to gender neutral but not exclusively. There's also people who are a middle gender, people who are both genders, people who switch between genders, or people who just don't prescribe to gender at all.
Gender is deceptively complex. You think it's just pink and blue, but look a little closer, and BAM! It's a whole fuckin' rainbow.
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Originally Posted by DecidedlyDevious
Genderqueer is any gender that isn't male or female. It doesn't really apply to trans because they are usually male or female just in the wrong body. It could apply to gender neutral but not exclusively. There's also people who are a middle gender, people who are both genders, people who switch between genders, or people who just don't prescribe to gender at all.
Actually, "non-binary" is a more inclusive umbrella term for genders that fall outside of male and female. Genderqueer also describes the same thing, but there are non-binaries who don't identify as genderqueer and so non-binary is more inclusive. Trans can apply to non-binaries as well, which is why many put an asterisk in (trans*), however there is still a dominant idea that trans is a binary concept, which is false. In addition, the idea of being "in the wrong body" is not exactly accurate to describe trans people either. There are many who feel that their body is wrong, and experience gender dysphoria. However, many are comfortable with their body, and might change it to suit their presentation, but do not feel it as "wrong". At this point, it's important to distinguish between transgender and transsexual. Transsexual people, as I understand it, get the "body is wrong" feeling, and have intentions to transition. Transgender people, however, simply do not identify with the gender they were assigned at birth. You can be one or the other or both or neither. These terms can both apply to non-binary trans people. Trranssexual is not commonly used by non-binary trans people, however there are non-binary transsexuals as well.
As for being "gender-neutral", that's pretty vague, and I haven't really seen it used as a gender identity or as an umbrella term within the trans community. It can apply to presentation, pronouns, etc., but I haven't seen it as an identity in itself. There are a wide range of genders covered under the non-binary and genderqueer umbrellas, including but not limited to agender, neutrois, third gender, othergender, androgyne, bigender, trigender, genderfluid, pangender, post-gender, etc, along with anything in between or outside of these, or even just genderqueer. I could try to give a definition for each if someone wants, but it will probably not be entirely inclusive, since there are just a wide array of genders out there, and it's not possible to accurately define all of them in the way that people identify with them. Genderqueer is also interesting in that it can be a singular identity as well as an umbrella term. As for how just vast gender is, I simply present this:
If I fucked up anywhere, someone could point me out, but I'm just speaking from my experiences and understandings as a genderfluid person. I'm not criticising you DD; I just decided to take this moment to educate.
Last edited by InvaderGIR; 05-06-2012 at 07:03 AM.
She sleeps in tower ivory, she dreams in one of gold,
At once she is both young and dead and old.
She sees what is to happen, knows not what will unfold.
Fire took her dreams away, now emptiness rules sleep,
In bubbles ruled by creatures mad her sanity she keeps
And through the madness she becomes a wolf and not a sheep.
Now space is in her grasp, power great and vast
And on the golden inch she sails on ship of golden masts
To face a fiend of power cosmic, whose reign forever lasts.
How will this journey end, no one can be sure,
But however it will end, the universe she’ll cure.
John:
Zephyr his mount, sapphire his cape
The Heir arrives on wings of storm
Lightning his scepter, thunder his crown
The power of Breath the world does transform
Light on his feet, light in his heart
Greatness is his, his to perform
Potential endless, given by air
The power of Breath the world does transform
Joy rules him still, though darkness looms close
And sorrows and pain threaten to swarm
He rises above, the sky is his throne
The power of Breath the world does transform
Though kindness is his, cruelty cast aside
Threaten his kin, trouble their form
And prepare to reap a whirlwind of force
The power of Breath your hate will transform.
Rose:
At the tip of her wand seraphim dance
A ballet of strife with devils of chance.
Sable and Emerald duel for her mind;
If either prevails , her fate won’t be kind
At all times in control, except when she’s not.
Aberrations of dread foul feelers do send.
They whisper of treason, damnation and rot,
Of crimes she could never hope to amend.
She will not surrender, relinquish no sliver
Of her mind to the hunters that come from the void.
Fight them every step, she won’t falter or quiver;
She fights for herself, least she be destroyed.
With wizardry and light, the future she scouts,
The roll of the dice now her crystal ball,
And though what she sees may cause her some doubt
The Seer will never again be a thrall.
Furious Pariah, hard of shell
Herder of wolves, they bite at his ankles
Making his way through a hazy hell.
Hurried the midwife, doomed the born
Ruinous creator, tumorous doctor
He failed, for hatred now sworn.
In desolation lingers, never dares to hope
For he knows hope is a butcher
With his helplessness he cannot cope
Rage too betrayed him, bond asunder
Leaving a trail of corpses behind
The jester cares not if he goes under
Trapped in loathing, harried by temporal shades
Cursed by heretical plasma, hidden by shame
Jealousy grows, cultivated by sightless blades
Blindness sneers at him
Callousness will spare not a moment
His blood by loneliness made dim
Kanaya:
On sunny sands she walks, while others in darkness sleep.
Caring soul, ancestor to a generation that will never be born.
Care is met with cruelty, dealt by the spider’s sting,
Her love is repaid with indifference, pricks like the sharpest thorn.
Amphibian progeny she raises, watched by a warrior filled with pride
Haste her child will doom, the warrior demands it still, she obeys.
A universe is born only to die again.
Her love is repaid by stillbirth; her child will never see the light of day.
Fleeing from bladed death, her last hope has yet to hatch,
She shows compassion to a wounded soul, giving it a goal.
That hope is a devil in sheep’s skin, and burns all others.
Her love is repaid with treason, and in her heart a hole.
With vengeance she rises again, less and more than she was.
The devil is cleaved by a sword of teeth. It gives her no peace.
Now she searches for a space to call her own.
Her love is waiting for a balm that the pain will cease.
He is without equal, brain like a storm
Hateful and wretched, worthless worm
Wisdom and knowledge, power unknown
Ignorant fool, his fate does bemoan
Fierce is his mind, fierce his heart too
Cowardly maggot of red and blue
She was his best friend, she could have been more
He fired and fired, left nothing but gore
He saved her life, she kissed him and smiled
Shot through the chest, while he choked on bile
He did what he could, it wasn’t his fault
He failed like always, her death couldn’t halt
Blackness unfolds him, no more red and blue
Duality vanished, the dying shouts are gone
Peace at last, a final dark dawn.
Tranquility in emptiness
Rest in the void
Clarity in blindness
Unity in death.
Pointy shades, bulbous rump
Ironic coolness, rhymes I pump
Shatterproof sword, Causal cap
Layers of satire, I take no crap
Flashy moves, tasty grooves
Never lose, always the one to choose
Faster than sound, flashing around
Cutting fools down, fighting black clowns
Jet board, can’t be ignored, check out the sword
Slashing through imps like metaphysical gourds
Grist hoard, everything afford, won every single possible award
Shit so easy, I get bored.
Got Cal, best pal, me and him is an entire cabal
Bounce a coin, try not to look sad;
It won’t get to land before I send you
Beaten so bad like a kick to the groin
You can’t beat Bro at shit, I’m simply the best there is
Holding a monopoly on the asskicking biz.
Re: Sex Ed Thread Six (Sex, Gender, and Relationship Q&A)
Yes, it exist, but many of the...ideas they bring indeed are quite impossible without the proper technology, which we don't have, for assistive reproduction, which is one of the major point of postgenderism.
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I think between rape face Bonnie and cam whore KanRose we've got the hilariously awkward covered.
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
Yeah I was kinda surprised by that.
Like
Wait I can see tits
I CAN SEE TITS
DD officially has the best reading material, hands down.