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[Halfblood2000]

SBURBMON is a hackrom of POKÉMON FIRE RED that will modify the POKÉDEX, sprites and some other stuff, turning nearly all POKÉMON into HOMESTUCK CHARACTERS. It is currently in development and builds are released almost daily.

• BASE STATS: Base stats are the general outline of statistics for a specific Sburbmon. Most of them don't yet have stats, so we're always in need of these.
• MOVESETS: Movesets are the list of moves a Sburbmon can learn.
• ABILITIES: Some Sburbmon don't yet have chosen abilities, so you can help with these too.
• TEXT: While this comes secondary, there is a lot of text in Pokémon Fire Red to replace and you can help with that.
• SPRITES: We're in heavy need of this, as most Sburbmon don't yet have frontsprites or backsprites! Remember that they have to be 64x64 and have a limited pallete of 16 colors.
• MUSIC: It won't be implemented until a later phase, but we're in need of remixes of music from the comic in either .midi or .s
• OTHER: There is a bunch of other stuff to be done, such as catch rates, appearance chance, growth curve, Sburbdex entries...

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• Added LOCAS.
• Changed TEAM ROCKET GRUNTS to FELT GRUNTS.
• Added the EQUIUS EVOLUTIONARY LINE, the HORUSS EVOLUTIONARY LINE and AURTHOUR.

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[GiovanH]

Nice idea. I can't wait to see a demo.

[Selig]

Sounds fantastic! I'd love to see this be successful.

[Blaperile]

This seems interesting!

I wonder how many Sburbmon there could be made...

So, judging from your post it seems baby/grub, young, and adult are all different Sburbmon.

The ones I can think of right now are 3 versions of all 8 Kids and 24 Trolls, which would result in 96 different Sburbmon. Maybe Davesprite, Jadesprite and Nannasprite could be split evolutions?

Denizens could be Legendary Pokémon, same for Lord English.

More evolution lines I'd suggest: Jaspers --> Split evolution into Jaspersprite or GCat.

Halley --> Becquerel --> Bec Noir

Dad --> Colonel Sassacre

Normal PM --> Bête Blanche

That's all I've got for now.

Without Denizens, that's 110 already. Wow, that's more than I would have thought.

[Halfblood2000]

I don't know if adult, but rather GOD TIER, Blaperile. Or some other one if they don't have a God Tier. Yeah, the sprites of those could be with a stone.

Also, progress!

[Blastoking]

This looks like it will be really really fun, I'll try to help in any way i can.
As for a few evolutions, I was thinking that for Baby Dave, and maybe Baby Dirk if you make him, that it would go like this
Baby Dave/Dirk, Kid Dave/Dirk, Bro Dave/Dirk
And then again, there are the shiny versions of pokemon, which would be other outfits for the characters i guess. But also, is there going to be a problem with genders?

EDIT: I'm working on a baby dave sprite right now as we speak,

[PikaOi]

Do you need grub sprites? I was working on a hack like this that didn't get all that far like a month or two back, and I could give the sprites I made for that if you like... :V

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They're not all that great, but hopefully they're of some use. :V

[Scarodactyl]

LE should be more like MISSINGNO than a proper legendary pokemon, I'd think. Something that was never intended to be inserting itself into the game through various loopholes/glitches, leaving corruption in its wake and occasionally outright destroying the game, meaning you have to restart entirely? Seems like a fit to me.

[shinyjiggly]

But because it's a FireRed hack and not a Red hack, they would have to add back in all of the glitchy details that Missingno. in red/blue had (screwing up the hall of fame, giving 128 copies of the 6th item, slight graphical errors with battle sprites...).
The closest thing to a missingno.-esque glitch pokemon in FireRed is "????????" (I forgot exactly how many question marks were in the name, but I think it was between 6 and eleven?).
Also, I think that glitch pokemon would work better as an analogue for the Horrorterrors, considering that they can both have disturbing effects on a person's perception of the world and generally throw constant streams of mindscrews.
Though, of course as mentioned earlier, these glitchy effects would have to be fabricated.

One thing for sure, if Lord English is in there, he should be a dark/ghost type with the wonder guard ability so that he's invincible. One could still technically defeat him through a move that changes type or changes ability, so there could still be the faint glimmer of somehow being able to beat him.

[Halfblood2000]

Do you need grub sprites? I was working on a hack like this that didn't get all that far like a month or two back, and I could give the sprites I made for that if you like... :V




They're not all that great, but hopefully they're of some use. :V

Thank you! I'll use them. ALL OF THEM.

This looks like it will be really really fun, I'll try to help in any way i can.
As for a few evolutions, I was thinking that for Baby Dave, and maybe Baby Dirk if you make him, that it would go like this
Baby Dave/Dirk, Kid Dave/Dirk, Bro Dave/Dirk
And then again, there are the shiny versions of pokemon, which would be other outfits for the characters i guess. But also, is there going to be a problem with genders?

EDIT: I'm working on a baby dave sprite right now as we speak,

Other outfits? haha no, shiny is just a pallete change. And no, there are enough male and enough female characters, and most are HumanShape, so... shipping ensues.

Well I already have one, but let's see on that.

But because it's a FireRed hack and not a Red hack, they would have to add back in all of the glitchy details that Missingno. in red/blue had (screwing up the hall of fame, giving 128 copies of the 6th item, slight graphical errors with battle sprites...).
The closest thing to a missingno.-esque glitch pokemon in FireRed is "????????" (I forgot exactly how many question marks were in the name, but I think it was between 6 and eleven?).
Also, I think that glitch pokemon would work better as an analogue for the Horrorterrors, considering that they can both have disturbing effects on a person's perception of the world and generally throw constant streams of mindscrews.
Though, of course as mentioned earlier, these glitchy effects would have to be fabricated.

One thing for sure, if Lord English is in there, he should be a dark/ghost type with the wonder guard ability so that he's invincible. One could still technically defeat him through a move that changes type or changes ability, so there could still be the faint glimmer of somehow being able to beat him.

Types will probably change to become Breath, Light, Time, Void, Heart, Hope... etc. There will also be a Prospit and a Derse type.

Now, MORE PROGRESS:

[thottobeextinct]

Would your player be changed at all? (Like you would play as Hussie or something.)

Also, what about pokemon eggs?(i forgot if thats even possible in fire red, but if it is...)Would you get Jane by mixing John and Jade or Dave by combining Roxy and Dirk? (This is probably to complicated but it would be really cool if t was possible.)

[Halfblood2000]

Would your player be changed at all? (Like you would play as Hussie or something.)

Also, what about pokemon eggs?(i forgot if thats even possible in fire red, but if it is...)Would you get Jane by mixing John and Jade or Dave by combining Roxy and Dirk? (This is probably to complicated but it would be really cool if t was possible.)

Yeah, that's a cool idea. You'll get to play as Hussie and someone else as the chick.

Pokémon Eggs' sprite will change to be ectoslime, and I think I can do that. I don't know if it would be complicated, but I'll try.

[Halfblood2000]

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[GiovanH]

Yeeeees

[Woe Kitten]

Ms Paint should be the female trainer.

[PikaOi]

Whoa, really? I was preparing for them to be outright rejected like all day. Says a lot about my self esteem, hehe.

By the way, XGRUB instead of GRUB X or X GRUB might look a little less awkward, since it fits within the 10-letter name restriction. Doesn't really matter that much, though.

[Halfblood2000]

Whoa, really? I was preparing for them to be outright rejected like all day. Says a lot about my self esteem, hehe.

By the way, XGRUB instead of GRUB X or X GRUB might look a little less awkward, since it fits within the 10-letter name restriction. Doesn't really matter that much, though.

I'll use that instead.

I moustache you a question: could you do backsprites for those SBURBMON revealed already that don't have one? No problem if you can't, but they're not my forte.

[PikaOi]

I can give it a try. :V

[Captain Combusken]

Hey, so here's the deal.

I Love Pokemon.
I Love Homestuck.
I am rather good at spriting.
I will be contributing to this project.

I would like to do Dave if nobody's currently doing him, and also I'd like to give Jake and Equius a shot. I'll probably have them done by the end of this weekend.

I love this project guys.

[Halfblood2000]

Hey, so here's the deal.

I Love Pokemon.
I Love Homestuck.
I am rather good at spriting.
I will be contributing to this project.

I would like to do Dave if nobody's currently doing him, and also I'd like to give Jake and Equius a shot. I'll probably have them done by the end of this weekend.

I love this project guys.

You can do Dave, but I've already done and put in the game a Baby Dave I did:



[S] Dave: Ride the Pony.

Thank you for contributing.

[Blastoking]

You can do Dave, but I've already done and put in the game a Baby Dave I did:



[S] Dave: Ride the Pony.

Thank you for contributing.

Well, here's the baby dave I made I can get rid of his record background though, if it's a problem,

[Thedude3445]

This seems interesting!

I wonder how many Sburbmon there could be made...

So, judging from your post it seems baby/grub, young, and adult are all different Sburbmon.

The ones I can think of right now are 3 versions of all 8 Kids and 24 Trolls, which would result in 96 different Sburbmon. Maybe Davesprite, Jadesprite and Nannasprite could be split evolutions?

Denizens could be Legendary Pokémon, same for Lord English.

More evolution lines I'd suggest: Jaspers --> Split evolution into Jaspersprite or GCat.

Halley --> Becquerel --> Bec Noir

Dad --> Colonel Sassacre

Normal PM --> Bête Blanche

That's all I've got for now.

Without Denizens, that's 110 already. Wow, that's more than I would have thought.

If it's fire red then we'll need 386. Not that it's necessary but you shouldn't just hack part of the game :P
Uhh okay 110... other ones...

Squiddles for like all the fish pokemon (or like Unknown or something). I am going to offer the use of all 48 characters from Sandswept if need be. You can definitely at least use the main 6 (spoilers there's 6 main characters out of 48 just like there were like 4 main characters in Hivebent). Of course you probably want to stick to canon Homestuck characters, but you can still use them, even if just as six different-colored generic squiddles. They do have canon aspects and titles and stuff so you could potentially make 3 forms out of however many you want. If you just choose 6 that's still 18!

15 Felt. Hey one for each type except for 2. I guess like normal and ghost or something.

Lil Cal and the millions of different types of him all floating around the inciphisphere. It could make like, idk, 4 versions?

Same with Liv Tyler. There are I believe 5 versions so far, and if the bunny that Jane has is also of the same chain, 6.

Since GT is the final evolution, all of the guardians and ancestors are free, making for 28 extra characters (32 if A1 is ever shown)

There are also 12 lusii! Their sprite forms = 11 more since Aradia's isn't one.

Horrorterrors could make for as many as you want as well. They could also be a final evolution of any squiddles, if you don't want to make any direct references to Sandswept (which I do not recommend :P)

UU/uu. I'll count it as 2 regardless of how many bodies they have.

Other Aradia forms: Dead Aradia, Sprite Aradia, Robo Aradia. Also you could count the frog sprite by itself.

4 Midnight Crew members with 2 forms each because B1 and B2 are mostly the same.

5 exiles B2, plus Serenity.

4 known consorts and 12 known denizens.

Ms. Paint. She could be Mr. Mime's analogue btw :P

4 types of chess pieces, both Prospit and Derse. Then the Black/White Kings and Queens of the three sessions (only White Queen B2). WK is the same form as an exile (since he's only an exile for 12 seconds), but there are prototyped forms for all 4 of them in A2 and B1. This makes 16 more.

10 types of Underlings, 5 of them unnamed however.

Then there's the wacky stuff. The Cthulhu doll, the Harlequin Doll and then --> Harlequin Sprite pre-entry -- Harlequin Sprite post-entry (you know with the tail and full body). The crow --> seppucrow --> Crow sprite. Then Lil Cal sprite from that alt. timeline. Also Maplehoof, Dave's brain, Robo Troll (the generic one Equius made), Robo Jade, Robo Dirk, Autoresponder, Sawtooth, Buzzsaw, the Imperial Drone and the special Crocker Drone, the whale lusus that Eridan killed, fedorafreak, and Dennis from Gamebro.




This makes 274 total potential Pokemon, not counting at all the number of Squiddles or Horrorterrors possible. If you want the missing 100, there are other ways:




If you do lots of squiddles you also get Princess Berryboo, the Murky Brineswallow, Skipper Plumbthroat, and Billy the Bellsuit Diver. 4

Celebrities referenced prominently in Homestuck: Presidents J and 2 Dope, Guy Fieri, Nic Cage/John Cusack/David jfjfjflf (Cryus the Virus), Charles Barkley, Charles Dutton, Bill Cosby, Bing Crosby. 10

Sweet Bro, Hella Jeff (both of which have furry forms), Geromy, The Big Man, Peaches the Dog, the Slunk. 8

Characters in Jailbreak: The Guy (there's 2 guys but they look the same so it's like one species of Pokemon :P), The guy with pumpkin armor, Logorg, Drillgorg, the pony (no elf because I am trying to count let me count how I want :P) 5

Characters in Bard's Quest: I haven't read this in a loooooooong time, but iirc, there was the Bard, the King, the King's "body"-guards, and the shopkeep guy. 4

Problem Sleuth characters: this... is going to be difficult to accurately count. I will only count 3 forms for the main characters PS, AD, PI, but I will count Fiesta Ace Dick and Godhead PI as separate characters. Then there's female versions of 3 of them, Honeybee Professor, the 4 heroes (this is where the elf goes), the Weasel King, Death, the Candy Mecha, the Devil, the Demimonde Goddess, Wifehearst, and Bathearst. There are more but that is already 29.

That is 324. Out of 386. So close. So close.

There are 28 members of the Music Team and 14 members of the Art Team

Yeah anyway it would not be too hard to get to 386. I am missing several background characters from each adventure and the evolutions of the music team members :P

[shinyjiggly]

Can we get a list of which sprites are currently already done so that the possibility of unnecessary duplicate sprites is lessened?
Also, I know that GBA sprites can only have up to 15 (or was it 16?) colors, but what are the limits on which colors can be used? Are there any?

[Blaperile]

Denizens could possibly evolve from Minions, like that Typheus minion.

I think the Trainers should be the normal people that appear in Homestuck: Nic Cage, Dante Basco, and so on. Maybe even Mr. T (from the puppet), or Game Bro, or Dennis and we really could keep going on.

[Halfblood2000]

Can we get a list of which sprites are currently already done so that the possibility of unnecessary duplicate sprites is lessened?
Also, I know that GBA sprites can only have up to 15 (or was it 16?) colors, but what are the limits on which colors can be used? Are there any?

SPRITE LIST



+ all the Troll Grubs PikaOi did

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Just use the colors you want, but try to keep it style-consistent.

If it's fire red then we'll need 386. Not that it's necessary but you shouldn't just hack part of the game :P
Uhh okay 110... other ones...

Squiddles for like all the fish pokemon (or like Unknown or something). 15 Felt. Lil Cal and the millions of different types of him all floating around the inciphisphere. It could make like, idk, 4 versions? Same with Liv Tyler. There are I believe 5 versions so far, and if the bunny that Jane has is also of the same chain, 6.

Since GT is the final evolution, all of the guardians and ancestors are free, making for 28 extra characters (32 if A1 is ever shown)

There are also 12 lusii! Their sprite forms = 11 more since Aradia's isn't one.

Horrorterrors could make for as many as you want as well. They could also be a final evolution of any squiddles, if you don't want to make any direct references to Sandswept (which I do not recommend :P)

UU/uu. I'll count it as 2 regardless of how many bodies they have.

Other Aradia forms: Dead Aradia, Sprite Aradia, Robo Aradia. Also you could count the frog sprite by itself.

4 Midnight Crew members with 2 forms each because B1 and B2 are mostly the same.

5 exiles B2, plus Serenity.

4 known consorts and 12 known denizens.

4 types of chess pieces, both Prospit and Derse. Then the Black/White Kings and Queens of the three sessions (only White Queen B2). WK is the same form as an exile (since he's only an exile for 12 seconds), but there are prototyped forms for all 4 of them in A2 and B1. This makes 16 more.

10 types of Underlings, 5 of them unnamed however.

Then there's the wacky stuff. The Cthulhu doll, the Harlequin Doll and then --> Harlequin Sprite pre-entry -- Harlequin Sprite post-entry (you know with the tail and full body). The crow --> seppucrow --> Crow sprite. Then Lil Cal sprite from that alt. timeline. Also Maplehoof, Dave's brain, Robo Troll (the generic one Equius made), Robo Jade, Robo Dirk, Autoresponder, Sawtooth, Buzzsaw, the Imperial Drone and the special Crocker Drone, the whale lusus that Eridan killed, fedorafreak, and Dennis from Gamebro.

If you want the missing 100, there are other ways:

If you do lots of squiddles you also get Princess Berryboo, the Murky Brineswallow, Skipper Plumbthroat, and Billy the Bellsuit Diver. 4

Sweet Bro, Hella Jeff (both of which have furry forms), Geromy, The Big Man, Peaches the Dog, the Slunk. 8

Characters in Jailbreak: The Guy (there's 2 guys but they look the same so it's like one species of Pokemon :P), The guy with pumpkin armor, Logorg, Drillgorg, the pony (no elf because I am trying to count let me count how I want :P) 5

Characters in Bard's Quest: I haven't read this in a loooooooong time, but iirc, there was the Bard, the King, the King's "body"-guards, and the shopkeep guy. 4

Problem Sleuth characters: this... is going to be difficult to accurately count. I will only count 3 forms for the main characters PS, AD, PI, but I will count Fiesta Ace Dick and Godhead PI as separate characters. Then there's female versions of 3 of them, Honeybee Professor, the 4 heroes (this is where the elf goes), the Weasel King, Death, the Candy Mecha, the Devil, the Demimonde Goddess, Wifehearst, and Bathearst. There are more but that is already 29.

There are 28 members of the Music Team and 14 members of the Art Team

Yeah anyway it would not be too hard to get to 386. I am missing several background characters from each adventure and the evolutions of the music team members :P

I'm okay with all I quoted. Cut out some stuff. And I'd prefer to stay in-canon as much as possible.

Also, Nanna, Poppop, Bro, Mom and etc. will be evolutions using the Scratch Stone. Give the Scratch Stone to, for example, JOHN, and he'll evolve into POPPOP. Give it to JANE, and she'll become NANNA.

Well, here's the baby dave I made I can get rid of his record background though, if it's a problem,

I kinda prefer to use my version, as I had the really cool idea you would get Maplehoof as an extra Pokémon when evolving BABY DAVE (who is pretty rare) since they are all based on what they first look like on the ectobiology lab and what they hang on to. Go to the panels in which John becomes ectobiolobabysitter and you'll see John with Colonel Sassacre's book, Jake with the guns, Jane in the hat, Dave riding the pony, etc.

Maplehoof would be a very very very rare Pokémon you could only obtain from Baby Dave and an in-game trade. After using the Scratch Stone on Maplehoof, it becomes TINYMAPLE, basically the version hanging around Dirk's desk : P

ALSO EVERYBODY CHECK ON THE MAIN POST THERE'S A NEW PLANNED FEATURE