IDE/Theory 26: They're totally fine

[LMLYP]

if the AR wants his body back, maybe he could somehow graft himself onto dirk's headless corpse? that'd make him more corporeal - and less doomed(?) - than an ARsprite, and it's less grim than having him hijack dirk's dreamself ("dirk's dead. kiss me.")

[Unclever title]

Hmm... wait a second. Page 99 the post above me is #2475 and with 25 posts per page then this post (#2476) should appear on page 100... Unless I get ninja'd then this will be #2477.

But in order to not waste the post I need to either comment on discussion or post an IDE of my own. Ah! Got it.

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While Jade isn't omniscient she does have her spectagoggles and can see anywhere within the current region of space with them (might also be possible with her dog tier witch powers alone?) also she might be able to see Dad's, Mom's and Bro's (not to mention John's, Rose's, a few of Dave's, and Jade's corpses) by looking down on one of the five planets she keeps hovering. Though considering that John's mentioned the anniversary of his father's death I imagine they've already held funerals and made burial/cremation arrangements.

IDE: Jade took it upon herself to have all the corpses taxidermied in the Harley family tradition. I mean SOMEBODY had to stuff dead Grandpa... right?

Edit: And it looks like I was ninja'd after all. Can't say I wasn't expecting it.

[tastySalamanders]

Didn't Jade kinda hint that she doesn't currently have access to the sprite knowledge? (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006633)I mean I assume it still is locked within her at the very least, and given that Doc Scratch was able to do things like apparently wake up Kanaya's dream self, I would assume Jade should be fully capable of re-accessing that information.

[OverlordJ]

Theory: Trolls on Beforus reproduce in a different way then trolls on Alternia, maybe even without a mothergrub.

Explanation: Everything we know about troll reproduction is based on the alternian trolls. However, the drones were send out by her Imperious Condescension and probably because the alternian trolls are very violent and they would have died out if the drones wouldn't have existed. It might have been influenced by Doc Scratch as well. How ever none of this aplies to Beforus. Her Imperious Condescension isn't the ruler, the trolls are much less violent and Doc scratch isn't there either. There is a good chance that there aren't any drones on Beforus. And without them, troll reproduction as we know it doesn't work.

((Whoops, nearly double posted, this should fix it. ))

Didn't Jade kinda hint that she doesn't currently have access to the sprite knowledge? (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006633)I mean I assume it still is locked within her at the very least, and given that Doc Scratch was able to do things like apparently wake up Kanaya's dream self, I would assume Jade should be fully capable of re-accessing that information.

First link: Other trolls? Maybe the fantrolls? Anyone?

[The_Codfish]

Didn't Jade kinda hint that she doesn't currently have access to the sprite knowledge? (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006633)I mean I assume it still is locked within her at the very least, and given that Doc Scratch was able to do things like apparently wake up Kanaya's dream self, I would assume Jade should be fully capable of re-accessing that information.

She didn't hint that all? What she's saying is that she has some vague memories of Jadesprite's experiences, but even though they merged, it's not like they became the same person; it's more like Jadesprite vanished and Jade remembers some of the things she had done, but she doesn't feel as if those experiences were her own.

[LMLYP]

Hmm... wait a second. Page 99 the post above me is #2475 and with 25 posts per page then this post (#2476) should appear on page 100... Unless I get ninja'd then this will be #2477 ... And it looks like I was ninja'd after all. Can't say I wasn't expecting it.

lol you can make the new thread if you want, i dont care and i'll probably be asleep before the end of this page

[tastySalamanders]

She didn't hint that all? What she's saying is that she has some vague memories of Jadesprite's experiences

I probably should've gone into it when I first posted it: 1) The context of the conversation is that Jade is unsure of whether being a sprite has effected Davesprite's mental state or not, if Jade still had her consciousness being altered from technically still being one she wouldn't be so unsure.
2) John of course than refers to Jade as being a sprite in past tense while asking how being a sprite effected her mental state, rather than correcting him and saying that it still has an impact on her she instead clarifies that it was her dream self.

[The_Codfish]

Ah, I see what you're getting at, but my reply still fits. It was a different person who was a sprite, and she inherited it. I'm not even sure why you're saying she could have corrected him and said it still had an impact on her mental state? That would have been if the two people merged that way, but like I said, she only inherited some memories.

And again, none of that actually even matters in relation to her sprite knowledge?

[tastySalamanders]

I'm not even sure why you're saying she could have corrected him and said it still had an impact on her mental state?

And again, none of that actually even matters in relation to her sprite knowledge?

Because at a fundamental level having sprite knowledge would be a mental on impact her, she would not have all that knowledge in her conscious mind but rather her memories but unless she thinks about a particular subject he would not know she had that knowledge and so if she was pondering over things she would suddenly find herself realising that she knew things which she hadn't realise she knew. Even if she didn't have things like the sprites requirement to be cryptic and such, she should still have a good idea on how being one alters you.

If the only sprite knowledge she has is what she inherited from Jadesprite it would be highly vague considering Jade's memories of being her dream self are foggy and the information could possibly be limited to whatever Jadesprite actually consciously thought about and thus she wouldn't have much in the way of "'secret knowledge' on the game's workings".

[The_Codfish]

I'm not sure why you would connect sprite knowledge to mental impact?

Getting sprite knowledge is the same as inheriting memories (but in this case, it's no one's memories). The 'mental impact' is from becoming a sprite. But Jade didn't become a sprite. She only got the memories of someone else who did. She got it second-hand; she never experienced it first-hand.

[Unclever title]

lol you can make the new thread if you want, i dont care and i'll probably be asleep before the end of this page

Thanks, I mostly just wanted the power to edit the thread title to be ridiculous things.

[cardiacAtrophy]

Theory: Trolls on Beforus reproduce in a different way then trolls on Alternia, maybe even without a mothergrub.

Explanation: Everything we know about troll reproduction is based on the alternian trolls. However, the drones were send out by her Imperious Condescension and probably because the alternian trolls are very violent and they would have died out if the drones wouldn't have existed. It might have been influenced by Doc Scratch as well. How ever none of this aplies to Beforus. Her Imperious Condescension isn't the ruler, the trolls are much less violent and Doc scratch isn't there either. There is a good chance that there aren't any drones on Beforus. And without them, troll reproduction as we know it doesn't work.

((Whoops, nearly double posted, this should fix it. ))



First link: Other trolls? Maybe the fantrolls? Anyone?

Didn't one of the Beforan trolls refer to pailing? Kankri, perhaps?

[Unclever title]

Alright new thread is up.

If continuing a discussion from this thread be sure to quote what you're referring to in the new one so we all know what you're talking about.

But you all probably would have done that anyway.