My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

[Bwg]

Never watched Star Wars or played Mass Effect but okay.

Expanding upon my 'midichlorian' thing, magic is like the use of IMAGINATION.
The Cake's unicorn kid can walk through walls because she believes she can.

Twilight is in a posture against the Ursa because she has to think hard on her plan.
It's like when you see some people play driving games. They tilt their bodies with each turn.

A unicorn's ability is limited by her imagination. Which leads me to believe that most unicorns aren't very creative. Except Rariree and Twalot.

Magic being limited by what they think they can do is reasonable, I guess. Twilight's talent is magic itself, so she goes into each new spell knowing that she has a chance to succeed at it, while a unicorn whose talent is, say, sculpting, would likely be biased against anything unfamiliar and therefore more prone to failure/discouragement.

I think there's also a physical aspect involved, too, as shown by Twilight dealing with the Ursa. The sheer weight of it combined with the wind chime/water tower/milk multitasking was causing her to visibly strain. I'd imagine using magic to do heavy lifting would cause exhaustion in nearly the same way any other pony would get exhausted lifting boulders and the like, though I'm not sure if it would apply to just the mind or if the imagination aspect of it would put strain on the legs and back as well.

I'm just talking out of my ass at this point and I'm terrible with theorizing, so I'll just sit back and let this whole debate continue on without me.

[MobileMammal]

So unicorns are the Green Lantern. Got it.

[PlaceHolder]

I'm just talking out of my ass at this point and I'm terrible with theorizing, so I'll just sit back and let this whole debate continue on without me.

I'm just spouting ideas off of my head.
I don't expect anyone to listen to me.

All these ideas more of less came from yesterday when I read a fic in which Rainbow could fly without using her wings just because she believed she could.

[*Sigh*]

Never watched Star Wars or played Mass Effect but okay.

That second one is understandable, but how does one even go throughout life without having watched Star Wars?

[frostedWarlock]

That second one is understandable, but how does one even go throughout life without having watched Star Wars?

Because Star Wars is so quoted and parodied that there's no point in watching the actual movies once you've seen it parodied so often you can piece together the plot from disconnected gags.

[PlaceHolder]

Because Star Wars is so quoted and parodied that there's no point in watching the actual movies once you've seen it parodied so often you can piece together the plot from disconnected gags.

wow that was exactly my line of thought how did you know

This picture gets more confusing the more I look at it.

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[orderboundChaotic]

La Fluer, that's right?

TeleKINESIS. Thank you, Violet. I can't believe I confused the two.

Oh gosh! Rainbow Dash spends a lot of her time -- probably a disproportionate amount of her time even for pegasi -- hanging out on clouds and manipulating the weather. She lives in a cloud house, after all. That's all pegasus magic. No wonder she needs to sleep so much!

This idea also puts Pinkie and Applejack's insane stamina in a light. If unicorns and pegasi need this extra energy and all ponies can be born as a different type from their parents (It only takes one relative, apparently.), then earth-ponies should have this potential energy. I'd also guess that the mane six (or at least, TS, RD, and PP) are all ahead of the curve when it comes to this natural magic.

[frostedWarlock]

This idea also puts Pinkie and Applejack's insane stamina in a light. If unicorns and pegasi need this extra energy and all ponies can be born as a different type from their parents (It only takes one relative, apparently.), then earth-ponies should have this potential energy. I'd also guess that the mane six (or at least, TS, RD, and PP) are all ahead of the curve when it comes to this natural magic.

My idea is that all Earth ponies have this energy, but since they can't use it, it just gets pent up and makes them physically stronger. Pinkie Pie, who HAS found a way to use those energies, isn't as physically strong as most Earth ponies unless she needs it for a gag.

[Bohandas]

Because Star Wars is so quoted and parodied that there's no point in watching the actual movies once you've seen it parodied so often you can piece together the plot from disconnected gags.

If you're going to piece Star Wars together from gags you should read Blue Milk Special because the gags are comprehensive and in order

EDIT:In the order that the films and specials were made, that is. Not in-setting chronological order.

[Violet CLM]

I'm uncomfortable with saying that one's magical limits are purely a matter of what one believes them to be. It really doesn't explain Twilight's magic school exam at all, for one thing. More generally, it doesn't seem to be how the ponies themselves perceive magic to work, and I don't think that's the best direction for a theory to take. Magic is quite consistently portrayed as consisting of discrete, learnable "spells," of which Twilight knows some finite (albeit increasing) number and other unicorns know other finite (but lower) numbers. Starswirl created spells. If any unicorn at all can master any spell at all given sufficient confidence, you'd think that someone would have noticed this.

It also kinda contradicts the general cutie mark narrative. The CMC have plenty of confidence (usually), but their plans still don't work out because they're not biologically predisposed towards those fields. Trying to set up an entirely opposing set of rules for magic feels like, again, the wrong direction to go in.

On the other hand, Fluttershy can outrace Rainbow Dash while pulling a balloon behind her. Meh.

[Freack]

Hmm.. that is an interesting point.

I personally am MORE likely to read/watch something if it has been parodied endlessly.

I like being in on jokes. I like understanding references.

[Metaflare]

Someone should just ban me from writing forever.

[PlaceHolder]

I'm uncomfortable with saying that one's magical limits are purely a matter of what one believes them to be. It really doesn't explain Twilight's magic school exam at all, for one thing. More generally, it doesn't seem to be how the ponies themselves perceive magic to work, and I don't think that's the best direction for a theory to take. Magic is quite consistently portrayed as consisting of discrete, learnable "spells," of which Twilight knows some finite (albeit increasing) number and other unicorns know other finite (but lower) numbers. Starswirl created spells. If any unicorn at all can master any spell at all given sufficient confidence, you'd think that someone would have noticed this.

It also kinda contradicts the general cutie mark narrative. The CMC have plenty of confidence (usually), but their plans still don't work out because they're not biologically predisposed towards those fields. Trying to set up an entirely opposing set of rules for magic feels like, again, the wrong direction to go in.

Going to handwave everything I said and make a set of semi-new arguments and opinions.

You don't go to art school and instantly become amazing at art.
Art schools probably teach students about theories on art and commonly used devices or something. What do I know.
Some people probably don't even need art school.
Schools should give students a better understanding on their respective subjects.

Using magic is sort of like muscle memory for activities.
Pole-vaulting looks scary as hell, but if I tried it for long enough, I'm sure I could get reasonable success.
Twilight could participate in all of the Olympic events if that was the case.

Starswirl created new Olympic events.

the cmc arent doing what they are destined to do
scootaloo does sports. applebloom builds shit. sweetie screams in a mike.

[JordanTH]

I should keep writing forever.

Fixed.

[orderboundChaotic]

On the other hand, Fluttershy can outrace Rainbow Dash while pulling a balloon behind her. Meh.

Rainbow was also carrying two ponies and Fluttershy was ANGRY. Angryshy trumps all.

[Violet CLM]

well,

[Bwg]

well,

uh...
...that certainly is a thing.

[JordanTH]

Guys I have a bit of a problem and I thought I might ask you guys for help

So, I signed up for a college class and it turns out the first day is August 17

which is also the first day of Everfree

Obviously I can't go to both so

what do

[PlaceHolder]

well,

That's hilarious.
I give this guy an award for creating a highly concentrated fuel for what the fucks.

college

Well the entire event doesn't happen at once.
All depends if you mind on missing some parts of the event.

[williamcll]

Guys I have a bit of a problem and I thought I might ask you guys for help

So, I signed up for a college class and it turns out the first day is August 17

which is also the first day of Everfree

Obviously I can't go to both so

what do

Can't you skip the first day of school?

[Bohandas]

Call in a fake bomb threat so that the school is closed down and the class gets delayed.

[JordanTH]

Well it's only one class, and it's Drama. I mean it's more of a 'bridge the gap between high school and actually taking a full set of college classes so I'm not sitting on my butt doing nothing for a year'

I can probably find some other class of something that starts later if I really tried

[frostedWarlock]

Usually the first day of a college course is the most important day. I'd say college, but I'm not much of a con person anyway.

[Violet CLM]

Events that take place on the first day of a college class:

• The syllabus is given out.
• Every page of the syllabus is read out loud.
• Depending on the class size there's some talk about add/drop forms, waitlists, auditing, and so forth.
• Maybe you get to play a name game.
• Some reading is assigned.
• Absolutely nothing else.

So it depends on if the class is full or not (i.e. whether your spot would be given to someone else were you not to show up), whether you can find someone else to be there and pick up a syllabus for you, and whether the professor gives their consent for you to miss it. All logistical stuff.

[PlaceHolder]

How was this even done.

ATC is how.