My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

[frostedWarlock]

Doesn't count as a doublepost if you can't see them at the same time. :P

[JordanTH]

Hmm, not sure if OC, or Jade Harley pony.

I'm ok with either because adorables.

[Bohandas]

Recently I've gotten to wondering about the shape of the ponies' planet and the mechanics of the local star system around it. In regard to Prinecss Celestial "raising the Sun" I mean. That doesn't make a lick of sense in either a Heliocentric OR a Geocentric model. I'm stymied.

[*Sigh*]

I've a theory about that actually, but people would probably brush it off as stupid because it involves the Sun in the FiMverse being made of magic instead of Hydrogen...

[frostedWarlock]

I think it's just one of those things that'd be impossible to have a satisfying explanation for, so let's just go with "Magic."

[WordsHere]

I found it odd that it's this big thing for Celestia to raise the sun - or she just makes a big deal of it, but then Discord just flings the sun around like a yo-yo.

[Kiilek Rekaur]

I found it odd that it's this big thing for Celestia to raise the sun - or she just makes a big deal of it, but then Discord just flings the sun around like a yo-yo.

It's probably more a big deal for the ponies than her.
And Discord is rediculously powerfull.

Also, Everything is magic.

[*Sigh*]

Yeah, bringing Discord into any given argument is null because, well, he's Discord. He can do that kind of stuff.

[MobileMammal]

I've a theory about that actually, but people would probably brush it off as stupid because it involves the Sun in the FiMverse being made of magic instead of Hydrogen...

God fucking dammit. Now They Might Be Giants are going to have to write ANOTHER song about how there last one was wrong and how the sun is a million mile thick mass of pure magic.

[Namboto]

Recently I've gotten to wondering about the shape of the ponies' planet and the mechanics of the local star system around it. In regard to Prinecss Celestial "raising the Sun" I mean. That doesn't make a lick of sense in either a Heliocentric OR a Geocentric model. I'm stymied.

I have a friend who theorizes that their planet is in an unstable orbit and Celestia gives it a temporary fix at the annual summer sun celebration in order to keep them from being flung into space.

Me? I just put it down as "magic"

[*Sigh*]

God fucking dammit. Now They Might Be Giants are going to have to write ANOTHER song about how there last one was wrong and how the sun is a million mile thick mass of pure magic.

I can only imagine what would happen if one were to absorb all of that magic into one person. *cue the "power! unlimited power!" video*

[Violet CLM]

Suns and planets exist in a 1:1 ratio. Suns orbit around planets. Problem solved.

[PlaceHolder]

It's based on a square video game map.
If you fly far enough south, you end up north.
There is no up or down.

[Zarhon]

It's based on a square video game map.
If you fly far enough south, you end up north.
There is no up or down.

Come to think of it, that statement is a bit confusing... She mentions "Earth" before it's named as such by Smart Cookie when they place their flag on the area of Equestria. This implies one of the following:

a) Pinkie Pie / Councilor Puddinghead are breaking the 4th wall and referencing "our" Earth.
b) Earth is the planet Equestria is on. Meaning ponies are precursors/post-human extinction inhabitants of Earth.
c) "Earth" (that is, soil, or landmass) is "round" naturally. Which could mean anything from a physics/geography standpoint.

[Bohandas]

Plus I think there's a globe in one episode.

EDIT:

And given that there's no indication that one side of the planet is frozen this precludes the sun from being left idling in the underworld or phebous apollo's garage or beneath great a'tuin or whatever.

[PlaceHolder]

Plus I think there's a globe in one episode.

That's what they want you to think.
It's a conspiracy crafted by Celestia.
Instead of raising just one sun, she creates a new sun every day and discards it at night.
Luna, on the other hand, doesn't raise a moon at all; it's an illusion of a white circle.

[Zarhon]

Luna, on the other hand, doesn't raise a moon at all; it's an illusion of a white circle.

But how does it reflect the sun's light then? If it's just an illusion, it shouldn't be able to do so. Nights would be much like the credits screens: Pitch black and full of floating eyeballs until somepony lights a match or lights up their horn.

[Violet CLM]

Illusory light reflects off the illusion of the moon.

[orderboundChaotic]

It's based on a square video game map.
If you fly far enough south, you end up north.
There is no up or down.

So, Ditzy Doo was right all along?
Derpy owes me three muffins.

[Nyre]

I can only imagine what would happen if one were to absorb all of that magic into one person. *cue the "power! unlimited power!" video*

This is how I'm fairly certain Twilight Sparkle is going to be her own doomsday scenario. With how her mood and obsessiveness seems to yo-yo, it strikes me in the realm of possibility that she may become an end-of-series villain where she uses all the magic and power she's acquired to make a moral utopia "for the good of everypony." Her friends would stop her, of course, but it could potentially wreck the function and use of magic as Equestria knows it.

Related to this, I'm fairly certain that Celestia has already seen visions of this potential calamity and has made Twilight Sparkle her apprentice/trying to get her to make friends in a DESPERATE attempt to prevent the above scenario from happening.

[Bohandas]

Suns and planets exist in a 1:1 ratio. Suns orbit around planets. Problem solved.

But as I said, it doesn't really make much sense in a geocentric model either.

[kd7sov]

Why not?

I'm genuinely curious, because apart from the identity of the mover there's not a lot of difference I see from several real-world geocentric systems.

[Bohandas]

I should have been more specific. It doesn't make sense in a geocentric model with a spherical world. The sun is always over some part of the planet; it doesn't actually go down.

[Kiilek Rekaur]

I think Celestia passively controles the sun

Also.

Rainbow Dash is real.

[Violet CLM]

Yes... it's always over some part of the planet because the planet is spherical. Going down is relative to a given part of the planet.