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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Pilot there's one thing I'm confused about. You still had a vote out on Mathgirl at the end of D1. Why didn't something bad happen then? (or is the whole Obo-not-lynched thing because of that?)
    Mathgirl wasn't the lynch that day. She wasn't even near softlynch, so no penalty keeping my vote there.

    As for what happened with Obo, I'm just as lost as anyone else is.

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Better question Pilot! Why bother voting at all outside of hammering?

    Actually hell. Pilot I don't want to lynch you, but I do want you voting for someone without being the hammer vote. Or convince people your town without that somehow but right now you're being reel fishy.

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    some reads after a first read through.
    Also, aS didnt leave me any notes to work with in his quick topic. So I have no idea what he was thinking.



    Would like obo and cat to confirm that tehpilot does indeed have the night apple also i am sure people have questions for me.

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    ebwop: didnt mean to submit that when it wasnt finished will repost the full read list later

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Hmm. Rereading, I see the discomfort with Limanya much more clearly, but I still personally read her as just confused; that said, her comments to Scofflaw right before he gets lynched do make me uncomfortable. Not enough that I'd vote her myself, though. Not unless there weren't any other feasible options, which looks like it might be the case today.

    I was also struck by Seedy's relative silence, but on the other hand I'm pretty happy with the reads she did give. Notably, she had Scofflaw as one of her top reads, although she didn't vote for him. But her other prime suspects were Heroguy, ZigZagas, and TehPilot; all people I have some degree of suspicion on. If one of those three is scum, I would be very surprised if Seedy were as well.

    For the moment, I'm keeping my vote where it is. But I'd like to take the opportunity to ask Pilot a question while he's actually talking.

    Can you tell me why you went from "Scofflaw looks okay" on Day 1 to "I like none of Scofflaw's posts" on Day 2? That kind of shift without explanation still makes me uneasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palamedes View Post
    Better question Pilot! Why bother voting at all outside of hammering?

    Actually hell. Pilot I don't want to lynch you, but I do want you voting for someone without being the hammer vote. Or convince people your town without that somehow but right now you're being reel fishy.
    Just want to put pressure out there. And considering the activity state of the game, we need those votes. Besides, if I withheld my vote, that wouldn't win any favor either! Although now that I'm outed... eh.

    Quote Originally Posted by anacreon View Post
    Would like obo and cat to confirm that tehpilot does indeed have the night apple
    That thing is merely a rock I tell you. A rock. It's not even an apple.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Fogel View Post
    Can you tell me why you went from "Scofflaw looks okay" on Day 1 to "I like none of Scofflaw's posts" on Day 2? That kind of shift without explanation still makes me uneasy.
    It was largely something I picked up on when I flipped back through those days on D2 - I found myself agreeing with Scoffles when his posts were just in a similar vein of thought as mine, and when I saw his posts D2 I wasn't as happy with them. Then there was his claim, which was such BS and after that I was like "yeah, lynch 'im" and then I remembered my role and vote shenanigans happened.

    Just a misread on my part, really.

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Vote: TehPilot

    ya I gave him the apple
    I think
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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Okay. Day ends in a bit over 24 hours. Activity is still low.

    So we've got to consolidate votes. I wouldn't make it a choice between Pilot and Limanya just yet, though. I'm going to reread to see if anything clearer shows up, and would recommend everyone else do the same even if they already have today.

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Well, while his activity doesn't exactly vindicate him, I feel a bit better about pilot than I do limanya now. Not good about him in general terms; come tomorrow he'll probably still be a good suspect but honestly Limanya, yes she's new, but she's given almost no opinions, which seems like newbie scum to me rather than newbie town, so my vote is sticking.
    That said this thing with Pilot's role I'm not sure what to make of; I'm pretty bad at interpreting roleclaims, but I can say at least it doesn't seem like something somebody would make up? It could be useful to explain votign patterns, but I don't think as a fake role it would occur to anybody, but maybe it's just me. Then again if he did make it up he could basically explain away his previous votes however he liked, I really have no conclusion on it but they're my thoughts.
    Basically, I'm gonna keep voting for limanya, because she's still said nothing, and I think hasn't contributed previously due to scum/lurkness rather than newishness.
    I say hey
    whats goin on

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Votals: Now With Posts!

    anacreon - (1) - Palamedes
    TehPilot - (4) - Dragon Fogel, ThunderJolt, Paranoia, curiousCat
    Limanya - (3) - Heroguy, ZigZagas, TehPilot

    Abstaining - (7) - Pharmacy, anacreon, obolisk0430, crepuscularDissembler, Airey, Limanya, SleepingOrange


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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]



    Phew! Not done, but I think I've got enough to go on. Okay, for people too busy to read through all that, here are my questions:
    ZigZagas - You singled out Schazer as someone you didn't have a clue about on D1. Why mention her and not all the other people you presumably didn't have a clue about?
    Heroguy, ZigZagas, Palamedes: Why didn't you stick with your Obolisk votes on D2?
    Para: Why did you not say anything about Obolisk's third-party claim on D1, and then bring it to everyone's attention on D2?

    So, opinions: At the moment, I would like to stick with a vote on Pilot. Second choice is ZigZagas, third is Heroguy, fourth is Skunk because that would at least be informative (really don't want to, though, because anacreon just replaced in and I like their reads so far), fifth is Para for weird behavior on Obolisk and how he acted around my second and third choices.
    I don't think Skunk and ZigZagas are on a scumteam together.
    I don't think Para and ZigZagas are on a scumteam together.
    To a lesser degree than either of those, I don't think Heroguy and ZigZagas are on a scumteam together.
    If it turns out none of those five are scum... I actually have no idea who I'd go with. Maybe Pala or Cat on an outside chance. Or Airey because I always end up wanting to lynch Airey.
    I blame the lurking for making it hard to read people.
    I think Limanya's town, though admittedly she's not actually playing the game and it would be nice if she started to.

    Anyways, I'd prefer to keep my vote on Pilot. What's everyone else got to offer?

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Whoops, I meant to include a warning about the length of those notes, they're pretty scattered. Don't feel obligated to read them right now, just ask me about any particular opinion you'd like me to expand on, or even a specific player I didn't mention.

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    On further reflection, I can accept a Limanya lynch; not because I think she's scum, but because I think scum are going after her hard and if she comes up town, that bolsters my case. Note that my top three to lynch are all the people voting her.

    This is, however, a last resort for me and I will be disappointed if it comes to that.

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Ugh

    It's really late here now and i'm tired but yeah
    The reason i liked khalvin was probably because of those readlists and me thinking they were really impressive and awesome and big -_-

    Anyways. Cat doesn't strike me as scum, haven't seen anything about her yet that makes me think 'ASDFGHJKL SCUM' but eh.
    Dragon Fogel....i like him, probably for the same stupid reason as i liked khalvin but yeah he seems to be waaaaay more active than me srry guys -____-
    I'll have to check on the others tomorrow though.
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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Fogel: mostly because it felt like some people were going to go after him again and I wanted to remind them that 3party hunting is usually a waste of time. I wasn't around for the end of day claim. Its actually rather hard to respond if the claim happens right before day ends, so the first chance I had to comment was day 2.
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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    I'm just going to note here if tehPilot flips scum I want to eviscerate zigzaggas tomorrow. TehPilots said nothing to make me really reconsider if he's town or not and I'd rather not let him slip away just by virtue of having "Said Things.'
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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Oh, hey, I didn't realize until now that Pilot was just one vote away from softlynch. I would greatly appreciate seeing a fifth vote there. In fact, I'd really like a sixth just to be sure.

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Fogel View Post
    Heroguy, ZigZagas, Palamedes: Why didn't you stick with your Obolisk votes on D2?
    Because obo claimed 3rd party, and I wanted to figure out what was up with that before hand.

    I'm alright with a Vote: Pilot because yeah I agree that anacreon's been better about being around and I'm not a fan of how TehPilot's been acting. Part of me would still rather see if he dies if he's voting without hammering, but it would be too easy for him to explain why he didn't die if he is just gambity scum (plus it gives us a chance to lose obo). Heroguy looks bad today, but like I mentioned earlier he wasn't really in a bussing position on Scofflaw so I'd rather look at him after some other scumreads (such as Zig, Skunk, and mayyybe Cat).

    If for some reason the three on Limany are all not mafia then Limanya doesn't looks so good (since so far my only feelings of town in her relate to her wagon).

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    EBWOP on obo part: Once he came clean about the apple part I didn't want to lynch him because it is easily provable.

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    I don't like a Teh hang as much now as before. He seemed to really come in and toss around a few reads, along with offering an explanation for his actions; all this is quite a bit more then what Limanya has put forth. Nonetheless, I'm willing to call bullshit on his new behavior and see for sure what side he's on with a good old-fashioned hang, if it must come to that.
    Vote: Teh
    I really hope we're making the right decision here, bros. We haven't lynched town yet, and if he does turn out to be town, then we just lost what looks like someone who could be a valuable and shrewd player.

    I decided to hold off on Obolisk because he honestly seemed like a third-party guy. He had those weird apples, and he seemed to know where they are, so he isn't bullshitting on that. But his complete inactivity from the game at this point is a little frustrating. In any case, if we lynch Teh, I think that activates Obo's win condition or something, so that'll be exciting.

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    For the record, it's kinda hard to test my voting-shenanigans claim when I'd have to self-vote for it to work with the current lynch. And even then...


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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Is this thing on?

    So today was only the same people over n' over again with occasional Guest Stars from the lurker crowds. I'm

    not too enthused about anything right now.
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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Ok so
    As for schazer, she'd been the focus of attention earlier for slightly random shenanigans. By saying I didn't have a clue, that means 'I don't know whether to interpret being silly selvoting as just silliness or as actual intentional play', which was a thing I think I wondered abou in the same/a nearby post.
    As for obo, I was actually pretty satisfied with 3p claim once it was confirmed that someone had received the apple, and also because obo was the best vote on the first day, but come second day more stuff starts to happen and so more candidates pop up to consider before voting.
    Also the reason I went straight to voting for someone today is because like people say activity is variable and I myself can only be on in certain windows of time so I just wanted to open with being as proactive as I could, if you like to say it that way.

    Ok so as for pilot V limanya:
    I'm feeling pretty weak on both counts, to be honest. Like hero said, Pilot has been a lot more communicative and opinionated that limanya as of today, which is helpful and makes me want to stay on track with limanya. However, pilot has apparently done lots of scummy stuff? I understand the sudden switch of votes is strange, but what else is there that are making people vote for him?
    But fogel's uberpost makes me think that if khalvin really was pushing limanya sufficiently, then it seems unlikely for them to be on a scumteam. So I think I'm going to unvote because that just jars with limanya being scum.
    Not going to vote pilot just yet though until some kind person gives me a list of reasons because all the ones I can find seem to be either stuff like activity or that one time he voted scofflaw weirdly. There just doesn't seem like that much to support it? I feel like i'm missing something since everyone seems pretty confident about it so to be honest i'd just like someone to tell me clearly why.

    Alsoooo what do people mean by bussing?
    I say hey
    whats goin on

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    I am not quite sure about the pilot lynch.

    @zigzag is means scum pretty much pushing a lynch on one of their own.

    because of a few things
    if he is scum he would have been bussing scoffles since his vote was on him very early in that day and was there all day.

    his claim. I am not sure what to think of it. I know it is an easily provable claim though from the way it sounds.
    Part of me thinks it is a bs claim since it would give him a good excuse to hop off a wagon.
    The other thinks it might be real since it seems like it would be hard to fake claim something like that.

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    Re: Mafia: The Aurora Express [D3: Two Cops]

    Final Votals

    TehPilot - (6) - Dragon Fogel, ThunderJolt, Paranoia, curiousCat, Palamedes, Heroguy
    Limanya - (2) - ZigZagas, TehPilot

    Abstaining - (7) - Pharmacy, anacreon, obolisk0430, crepuscularDissembler, Airey, Limanya, SleepingOrange


    With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch and 5 to soft lynch. The day will end on Wednesday 3rd of October, at 5PM GMT.



    By the third day it's becoming quite natural. Humans are adaptable creatures, after all, and these ones in particular seemed to have taken to the death and murder like ducks to water.

    As always, there are the few who hang back when the mob turn on the victim. But they don't intervene either. Instead they watch silently as the victim, now eerily resigned to their fate, is dragged towards the cliff-side. The noose is laid around his neck.

    And then he is pushed.

    But this time, something is different. The rope does not go taut. The lynch mob, which had stepped back from the edge in a last mark of reverence, now hurries forward as quickly as their sense of preservation will allow. Furious words are hissed back and forth between the few, but it is only when the rope is drawn up from the edge that those who hung back see what has happened; the rope has snapped.

    A quick discussion arrives at the conclusion that the result is the same. Wherever the victim is now, it's likely in a crumpled heap at the bottom of cliff. And if the drop doesn't claim them, then the winter's night will.

    And so the lynch mob withdraws from the cliff. It is only as they start to climb back into the train that any more light is shed on the matter.

    "Hello?"

    Everyone turns. The victim, thought irreversibly dead just moments ago, is standing on the cliff edge with the broken rope still around his neck. He's a little scratched and battered, but undoubtedly alive.

    "I - I'm not dead?" he adds, quite unnecessarily. "The rope broke and a branch caught me - so I climbed back up. Is... is that okay?"

    There is a stony silence.

    Eventually somebody mutters something about pardons in the case of the noose snapping, and everyone is happy enough to accept that. With a few irritated sighs and murmurs, everyone makes their way to bed.


    Nobody died. Night has now begun and will end on the 6th of October at 5PM GMT.

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