Sex Ed Thread Seven: Gay Marriage for Everyone!

[memento vivere]

which kind of bugs me, because I would want to have a girlfriend who understood how great homestuck is. I mean I guess bi or pan girls are technically a possibility, but I can't win if girls are also an option, girls are just too pretty for any guy to win against in a battle of the heart

Nonsense. Some bi/pan girls might lean more towards other girls, but some are going to like both equally, and some are going to lean more towards guys. If someone likes you, them liking girls too isn't going to make them any more predisposed to losing interest in you, that's silly. Nor are all girls pretty, nor are all guys not pretty.

As for ONLY dating girls who have read Homestuck, you're certainly free to set whatever standards you want, but in MY opinion you're limiting yourself rather drastically. There are probably tons of girls out there who WOULD like Homestuck but have never heard of it before—entirely reasonable, as it's NOT the most well-known thing in the entire world, and most people stumble upon it by chance or proximity or recommendation.

To give you an example, when I was in high school I was pretty into Kingdom Hearts—it was my Homestuck at the time in terms of me being an obsessive fan. But if I only dated guys who were also big Kingdom Hearts fans, I WOULD HAVE NEVER DATED ANY OF MY 7 EVIL EXES. I'd still be single, because it was an unreasonable thing to expect everyone else to love or experience, and I'd be here complaining that nobody meets my Kingdom Hearts-based dating standards. Instead I DID date them, and it worked out fine, because I'm perfectly capable of talking about things aside from my fandoms, and so are you. And as it turns out, I made at least a couple of them play the Kingdom Hearts series while I was dating them, and they liked it too! They never WOULD have if I'd written them off from the start.

And some of them WEREN'T interested in Kingdom Hearts, even after I showed it to them. That's also okay, because at the end of the day, there was still plenty else we could enjoy together, and plenty of other shows/movies/genres/topics/books/whatever that we were able to bond over, or argue over, or make fun of. Not to mention plenty of activites that weren't based around the consumption of media at ALL.

Think of it this way—say there was some smart, pretty nerdy girl who was cool and who thought you were cute and funny and a good cook—BUT you had never read her favorite book <book title> before, so she wouldn't even consider you an option. It's certainly her RIGHT to do that if she wants, but doesn't that sound at least a little silly and arbitrary, especially if she doesn't even tell you WHY she's writing you off? Maybe not, but at least to me it does. People are SO much more than their favorite webcomic or movie, and people can also date and still have differing tastes. If you're looking for someone who's into ALL the same stuff you are, you're going to have a very limited pool to choose from, and probably going to be looking for a really, really long time unless you're lucky.

Some people like dating people who share the majority of their interests with, and that's totally reasonable. I do too to limited degrees, you certainly need to have something to talk about! Personally though, I PREFER to date guys who I can share some new things with—and vice versa! I've found SO MUCH cool stuff because of the different things my boyfriends have been into, which never would have happened if I'd refused to date them for liking something different than me. Hell, some girl may show you something that you end up liking way MORE than Homestuck, and which you'll make your new standard for what people must like in order to date you. Or whatever your standard was for dateability BEFORE April 2009. Or whatever your standard might be at other points in the future when you stop being as into an obscure webcomic that ended in 2013.

[wrinklefudger]

I have friends all over the LGBT spectrum and back again hooray

I have a close group of friends and we're like 85% queer. And also my online buddies

It appears I'm really bad at making productive posts here.

Okay well that thing you just said about pan/bi girls is lame, WF, because you've effectively just said that they don't exist. There are plenty of pan/bi girls who have boyfriends. I know several.

It was a bad joke, my bad. Won't let it happen again. I know bi and pan girls exist, I've never doubted it. I should have just said I can't compete against girls.

Also, I recently found out that one of my meatspace friends is trans. Even though I think I'm reacting to it better than most people would, I still think I'm not as comfortable with it as I should be. On some level I guess I still have that subtle societal message engrained in my head that "being trans is weird," but I'm not sure if it's that that I'm reacting to, or the fact that I simply had no idea before. I'm not going to treat her any any different, but it's just a weird thing that's stuck in my mind recently

[TroubleSquared]

ha, you're certainly reacting better than most people! it's understandable to be a little uncomfortable with sudden revelations. just try to be nice. it's fine if you slip up occasionally.

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i thought you said meatspin at first.

[Hatman Hatmyth Hatlegend]

So essentially I'm the only non-straight person here that has only straight friends in meatspace?

Fuck my life.

[TroubleSquared]

only reason i have non-straight irl friends is gsa and therapy. >_>

[Hatman Hatmyth Hatlegend]

Of which neither are available options for me. At least, not group therapy.

[Malrone]

I have friends all over the LGBT spectrum and back again hooray

I have a close group of friends and we're like 85% queer. And also my online buddies.

I think I've said it before, but I'm the one white bread person on my D&D group. It's been interesting.

Still no luck with romance. Good friends with a Homestuck from a club I infrequent, but she has confessed asexuality and doesn't show much interest in romance either. Friends are always nice, though. Makes all kinds of MSPA stuff, from troll horns to scalemates. Suppose I'll start looking elsewhere.

EDIT: I think I brought her up before, but I don't remember any response to it.

[memento vivere]

I've got a pretty damn diverse set of friends, I think. Plenty of straight folks, plenty of gay folks, plenty of bi folks, etc. I've got a few trans acquaintances, though I don't think there are any that I happen to be super tight with.

I don't feel like there's any particular reason for that diversity though... some people I know through my college's GSA of course, but the people I'm actually close to are generally just people I know through high school, mutual friends, similar social groups, theatre, art, music, or whatever. Especially the latter few... artistic communities seem to be bustling with cool queer folks, in my experience.

[wrinklefudger]

I took a census of my local homestuck group a few weeks back. In terms of sex only it was 10% male 90% female, though a measurement of gender would be approx 20-35% non-cis

out of the 20 people in the group, only four claimed to be hetero. 60% were bi or pan, though theres a 5% margin of error as one person claimed to be both agendered and heterosexual/birom. I didn't know what to count that as.

[Everanix]

So essentially I'm the only non-straight person here that has only straight friends in meatspace?

Fuck my life.

Nope, unless you count my older sister as a friend :v

[MythicalWashrag]

Yeah I'm pretty sure all my friends in meatspace are straight.
I knew a lot of lgbt people in college though. I'd consider them "acquaintances I didn't keep up with because I am bad at keeping contact."
Love dem art schools.

[wrinklefudger]

lol, I know right? (I have no idea what anyone is saying, only that they are pooping in to say something)

I recently made the decision to join a kink support group. I'm a little uncomfortable posting there at the moment, it strikes me that getting to know the people there would probably get me emotionally invested in people with as many problems as I have. It probably won't be good for anyone's health

[Avi]

A while ago someone did a survey of the fandom on tumblr. I wouldn't take it as gospel but it feels roughly accurate and it looks like the crowd you'd see at an anime con. Most of the fans came in during Act 5, mostly teen and college aged, lots of creative arts and crafts people, disproportionate number of women and gender/sexual minorities.

[knottedOdyssey]

So essentially I'm the only non-straight person here that has only straight friends in meatspace?

Fuck my life.

my five closest friends meatspacewise are all heterosexual heteroromantic dudes. after spending so much time talking to internet people it feels really weird to be the minority in being queer in a meatspace group of friends.

[mysteriousOutsider]

oh yeah so far as I know all my meatspace friends are straight and mildly homophobic wooooo

[Ace of Dark-Hearts]

Meatspace sucks what's even the point we should all just live on the internet

[wrinklefudger]

that would cut out the one time a week I actually see people who want to talk to me

[Hatman Hatmyth Hatlegend]

Meatspace sucks what's even the point we should all just live on the internet

If I could, I would but I'm about as much of a social fuck up on the intertubes than on meatspace.

[wrinklefudger]

If I could, I would but I'm about as much of a social fuck up on the intertubes than on meatspace.

dude, at the very least you haven't managed to make everyone in your life despise you. I've been putting up with this fucking life for far longer than I should have. If I can't find some friends soon, I'm just going to have to force myself to use the universe's emergency exit

[Blueberry]

It's not even worth it to try to bring the conversation back on topic with so little of the thread left. New thread five posts early!!!

[Blueberry]

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