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[Laset]

acio, counterpoint:

he's encouraging crilly to go off.
he's coloring both of us scummy then waffling on it.

he's kind of misrepresenting what I was saying, he's

... man, everything except the rainbowlist is scummy, and the rainbowlist itself isn't the least scummy thing in the world. his townreads are ...
creative.

[anacreon]

This is what I'm thinking right now. I am not sure how many scum are left (but I kind of feel like at least one is dead, leaving us with at least 3 left, and not sure if FON is still alive or not). Thinking one of Acio/Sotek are scum, along with one of Palamedes/Druplesnubb and Limanya. I think I'm leaning toward Sotek-scum though right now, and I feel like Acio might be telling the truth but I'm not entirely sure here yet...

First off Limanya as part of the main coven would mean limanya ignored any and all advice from her scummates which makes zero sense because she has made some pretty bad posts. Limanya!scum would have to be the FoN.

I'm feeling better about anacreon right now actually, but not totally convinced that he's town just yet (and if Limanya isn't scum I think anacreon might be). Feeling good about seastorm and Pilot still but I kind of wish they would talk right now. Tea still looks good. And if Crilly is telling the truth we might need him to go off today.

This right here contradicts your colored reads. You have 5 people listed as more scummy than me.

Heres the thing there is also the fear that it might be lylo or mylo right now. So crilly going off might cost us the game.
Lets see kills that will go off tonight coven, fon, council, and possible ogre oblit which most likely will happen because of Crilly claim.
Actually, having crilly go off might be something to consider just to stop the ogre oblit.

[Acionyx]

... man, everything except the rainbowlist is scummy, and the rainbowlist itself isn't the least scummy thing in the world. his townreads are ...
creative.

That's the point. In what world does scum barely exist in the game and show up to declare that every mildly to very active person in the game is scum


ANd I just looked through Pilot's posts. Only person he voted day one was Vancho. Only person he voted day two was kiven. He hops seastorm then joins MVwagon with the excuse that seastorm said things and then catches the tail end of the catlynch. And now he's dropped in to go "Acio maybe not so great except I'm not sure?????"

[Laset]

no, crilly going off means ogre tries to oblit someone else

we'd rather NOT do that and instead have crilly eat the oblit

remember, all an oblit gains scum is "A dead townie"
which crilly going off ...
... yeah.

like, consider worlds

world one: Crilly doesn't go off, gets oblitted tonight.
world two: crilly goes off, ogre oblits someone /else/. this is Bad.
world three: crilly goes off, ogre doesn't oblit. this is just lame
world four: crilly goes off, ogre whiffs, we lynch ogre tomorrow.
world five: crilly goes off, scum wins outright.

the only world better than world one is world four.
but if world four is likely the scum can just put us into world three instead, so crilly going off gives the scum a choice tonight instead of no choice.

[Laset]

... yeah, okay, that's a good argument against Pilot.

too bad he's not gonna be around to counter-argue, what with "no power at home". :\

and acio: in the world where today is lylo and the scumteam is
uh

jolt/seastorm/pilot/anacreon with druplesnubb as fon? but
they don't know that, do they. if it's lylo they ... hm.

right

okay. scum don't know if it's lylo unless they know it's NOT. Also scum are panicking.
yeah okay

uh hey
retarded question
visceral claimed a confirmable role
was. was it guardian? because if it was guardian, hurr durr last night makes sense. well
except for the oblit.

who the fuck felt confident enough to oblit deceptive as diviner last night if they weren't in councilchat??
we KNOW what was said in deadchat he COPY PASTED it.

al
though actually I could see people figuring him as diviner from how he interacted with me, even if he divined acio.
and then desperate scum? that implies cat was scum as was at least one other person dead earlier.
like.
oz.

so if cat and oz were scum.

who looks bad? does pala? because pala and oz had wierd interactions all the time and pala seems like the kind of guy who'd be confident enough to do that oblit on a roleread.

[Laset]

oh right

deadline vote: Druplesnubb because WHERE ARE YOU.

[Acionyx]

was. was it guardian? because if it was guardian, hurr durr last night makes sense. well
except for the oblit.

Do you think I would have spent the start of the day wondering if he was scum if he had? (No)

[Laset]

counterpoint:
I KNOW NOTHING

huh

a lot of roles are privately confirmable. that's interesting.

[Acionyx]

If pilot's not available

It doesn't make him less likely to be scum? But ugh I can wait and druplesnubb was last online last night so I can go with poking him

[Acionyx]

Aaaand whoops no he was on early morning yesterday way before daystart So.

Tehpilot

[Laset]

yeah I know it doesn't make him less likely to be scum

but it does make it less likely that we learn from aggroing him.

[Acionyx]

yeah I know it doesn't make him less likely to be scum

but it does make it less likely that we learn from aggroing him.

Well there's more than one day left in spite of my frenzying


What makes you think tea is town and what do you think wrt Limanya

[Laset]

If I were to guess wildly I'd guess Limanya was FON.

I think Tea is town because Mathie seemed more town than her activity level, then Tea came in and seemed town? have not ruminated deeply.

[Laset]

btw acio

what do you think of my proposed votegroups? do you have a counterproposal?

[Acionyx]

btw acio

what do you think of my proposed votegroups? do you have a counterproposal?

Dipping in before I'm gone for the night but

I literally do not know how your voting thing plan works


So my answers atm are ¯\(°_o)/¯ and No

[Laset]

acio: it's just

we try to make scum give us info or let us have a council without any of them so we can talk freely.
either way.

[anacreon]

oh i see about the crilly thing now.

[Limanya]

Ok so:

If Ogre is alive, nobody even hint as to what your role is because that is bad. If the 2HG is alive too, he can compare colors, right? Ogre gets those results and can use them for oblitera
If Changeling is alive, KILL HIM AS FAST AS POSSIBLE! Changeling knows the color of the person lynched last day, and can share them with the rest of the coven.
If Icy Manipulator is alive, idk. Can't think of stuff here.
If Skeleton King is alive or dead, he can spy on the deadchat and gain valuable information that can be used for tapping and killing and stuff.
If FoN is alive, he's not in the covenchat. Deceptive was the only one who got revived and is dead now. So FoN mostly can only guess as to who the coven is.

Also Changeling can be used for a kill that won't fail- that is, if there aren't any blocks/delays.

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but:

MV, Deceptive and Acionyx were in the council, right? Acionyx was public elected, Deceptive was privately elected and that leaves MV as scum elected. So they revealed their roles, and then Deceptive was oblitted. To oblit you need to know a person's role. While it is true that there was Diviner talk early, it's more likely that the scum was in the council. MV and Acio both are possible candidates, but i think that MV was a scum who shared information with his fellow witches. I don't know who the council killed, but MV probably got fireball'd or FoN'd.


Again, correct me if i'm wrong. I'm currently at school and don't have the time to read through all this.

Also i have no idea how Zatch died. Maybe killed by scum or FoN or Fireball.

[Limanya]

also please note that i have only looked at a little part of the thread following today's kills

[A Killer Cuppa Tea]

Let's see...

follow up questions:

1) Construct a scumteam with Sotek.
2) Construct a scumteam with neither Acio or Sotek.

Basically i'm trying to find the common denominator - there'll likely be one name that keeps cropping up - and lynch him.

[Palamedes]

Oh hey here's a thought.

Scum elected Visceral for a reason. Red and Zatch are kind of silly kills for the coven to make - Red was the council kill and Zatch was a pretty safe FoN kill. I've been tossing around the idea of scum sending one of their own into councilchat (Visceral), doing some sort of gambit (claiming confirmable role), and then killing him to make him look even better and to cast suspicion on Acio. Thoughts on this?

Also to be frank Deadline: Thunderjolt looks like he's trying to push a quick lynch through.

Right now I am a bit wary of Sotek for some reason but it's no huge thing. I liked anacreon until I realized that he could just be panicking scum like Sotek suggested (Yes even though I don't fully trust the guy I find that important). Tea is feeling off to me because despite how great he acted earlier now it feels like he's just trying to push the 'one of Sotek and Acio is scum let's find out which'.

[Laset]

but that's not what tea is saying, pala

also, hmm, the scumteam DOES have info, don't they.

they know lynchee colors, they know 2hg checks, they know deadchat.

it's not impossible for them to have learned somehow that Deceptive was White-colored, and from there you instantly know he's Diviner just by reading his posts. and he's a better oblit than Crilly for obvious reasons that are obvious.

anyway pala

here's my thoughts on what you have to say re Visceral.
vote: Palamedes.

because here's another gambit: Sending some randomass townie in to try to get him lynched the next day, then watching that half-fail by him dying in the night (to fon, most likely) then trying to doubledown on the gambit by focusing on it.

especially the "zatch is a silly kill for the coven to make". that's an ... interesting perspective there!

btw tea what do YOU think of the electionpair? let's get some agreement so we can yell at people to cast those votes.

[Palamedes]

Zatch was doing nothing!

I challenge you to find a reason why they would kill Zatch besides the fact that someone said he was possibly town. He makes more sense as a FoN kill, or even a fireball kill. Also if I was coven and planning on sending in some 'random ass townie' I probably wouldn't have sent in someone like Visceral? There are several better, less talkative and more suspicious options unless you want to suggest that the scumteam is filled with every single person who would look worse then Visceral coming out of that.

[A Killer Cuppa Tea]

btw tea what do YOU think of the electionpair? let's get some agreement so we can yell at people to cast those votes.

Don't really care; the council is a crutch not a necessity in my eyes. The whole "turn the election into potential for information" thing is absolutely prolly the best thing you coulda done with it; im all for you.

@Pala - actually, im arguing that neither of sotek or acio are scum. That said, sotek ruined my whole "YOU" moment because my answer after all 3 questions had been answered was "Vote: Palamedes, ha, bet you didn't see that one coming" but yea. You've even further confirmed yourself scum in my eyes.

[Palamedes]

Okay Tea, then back that up and explain how I'm your common denominator or I'm going to think you're just making that up.